426: ‘The Cutting Edge Latest Supermodel’, With David Smith
The Talk Show With John Gruber
06/30/25
•132m
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Special guest David Smith returns to the show for a developer's perspective look at WWDC 2025.
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Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good.
Links:
- Michael Flarup's mockup for a MacOS 26 Finder icon
- Louie Mantia's (even better) mockup for a MacOS 26 Finder icon
- Benedict Evans: “The Best Is the Last”
- Podsearch
- Under the Radar
- David-Smith.org
- Widgetsmith
- Pedometer++
- Sleep++
- Widgetsmith
- Hands-On: How Apple’s New Speech APIs Outpace Whisper for Lightning-Fast Transcription
- Tim Cook Reveals Apple’s Vision for Movies and TV
- Musk’s xAI Burns Through $1 Billion a Month as Costs Pile Up
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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425: ‘Through the Wall Like Kool-Aid Man’, With Chance Miller
June 26, 2025
•104m
Chance Miller returns to the show to discuss the news and announcements from WWDC 2025.
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Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good.
Links:
- Daring Fireball: “One Week Out, Some Brief Thoughts and Observations on WWDC 2025”.
- WatchOS 26 finally supports once-per-second ticking seconds hands on more watch faces on Series 10.
- The ongoing dispute between Apple and Massimo over the blood oxygen sensors in recent Apple Watch models.
- May 2024: “Apple Apologizes for Controversial iPad Pro Ad, Scraps Plans for TV Campaign”.
- August 2024: “Apple Pulls Latest Ad After Criticism Over Depiction of Thailand”.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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427: ‘The Shift-2 Crowd’, With Jason Snell
July 25, 2025
•132m
Jason Snell returns to the show to talk about the early PC platform rivalries of the 1980s, iOS 26 leaks (and Apple suing YouTuber Jon Prosser), the various Apple OS 26 public betas and the state of Liquid Glass, and more. (Where by “more” I mean a little baseball and keyboard nerdery.)
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Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good.
Links:
- The MLB All-Star Game "swing-off".
- NuPhy Kick75 mechanical Bluetooth keyboard.
- The weird key layout of the Apple Keyboard (ADB).
- Tinkerboy’s ADB-to-USB adapter. (Email Tinkerboy if you’re interested — he has a USB-C adapter too, not listed on the website.)
- Jason’s keyboard and the switches inside.
- John on Myke Hurley’s “The State of the Workflow”.
- Apple sues Jon Prosser over Liquid Glass leaks.
- Un-redacting the redacted names in the lawsuit.
- Wikipedia on Think Secret and "Nick DePlume", its pseudonymous author. See also: Vintage DF coverage of Think Secret.
- Ray Gun magazine and designer David Carson.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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