425: ‘Through the Wall Like Kool-Aid Man’, With Chance Miller
The Talk Show With John Gruber
06/26/25
•104m
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Chance Miller returns to the show to discuss the news and announcements from WWDC 2025.
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Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good.
Links:
- Daring Fireball: “One Week Out, Some Brief Thoughts and Observations on WWDC 2025”.
- WatchOS 26 finally supports once-per-second ticking seconds hands on more watch faces on Series 10.
- The ongoing dispute between Apple and Massimo over the blood oxygen sensors in recent Apple Watch models.
- May 2024: “Apple Apologizes for Controversial iPad Pro Ad, Scraps Plans for TV Campaign”.
- August 2024: “Apple Pulls Latest Ad After Criticism Over Depiction of Thailand”.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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424: ‘Live From WWDC 2025’, With Joanna Stern and Nilay Patel
June 14, 2025
•126m
Recorded in front of a live audience at The California Theatre in San Jose Tuesday evening, special guests Joanna Stern and Nilay Patel join me to discuss Apple’s announcements at WWDC 2025.
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Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good.
Links:
- WWDC 2025 Keynote.
- Joanna’s full 24-minute interview with Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak this week.
- The Verge: 28-minute supercut of the WWDC 2025 keynote and their take on the 13 biggest announcements.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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426: ‘The Cutting Edge Latest Supermodel’, With David Smith
June 30, 2025
•132m
Special guest David Smith returns to the show for a developer's perspective look at WWDC 2025.
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Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good.
Links:
- Michael Flarup's mockup for a MacOS 26 Finder icon
- Louie Mantia's (even better) mockup for a MacOS 26 Finder icon
- Benedict Evans: “The Best Is the Last”
- Podsearch
- Under the Radar
- David-Smith.org
- Widgetsmith
- Pedometer++
- Sleep++
- Widgetsmith
- Hands-On: How Apple’s New Speech APIs Outpace Whisper for Lightning-Fast Transcription
- Tim Cook Reveals Apple’s Vision for Movies and TV
- Musk’s xAI Burns Through $1 Billion a Month as Costs Pile Up
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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