452: ‘A Scam Held Together With Patriotism and Golden Paint’, With Quinn Nelson
The Talk Show With John Gruber
07/23/26
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Quinn Nelson returns to the show to discuss OpenAI’s ChatGPT/Codex “native” app migration fiasco, Siri AI in Apple’s OS 27 betas, MacOS 27 Golden Gate, and the hottest new cell phone of the year, the Trump T1.
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Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good.
Links:
- Quinn’s hilarious but utterly fair review of the Trump T1.
- Quinn: “Apple Just Fixed Mac Gaming and Said Nothing”.
- John Siracusa on ATP endorsing Quinn’s idea for an Apple gaming console.
- Valve founder/CEO Gabe Newell on working with Apple.
- “Stupid-Americans are the New Irish-Americans, Trump is Their JFK”, by “tarltontarlton” on Reddit (and posted here on Daring Fireball).
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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The great John Moltz returns to the show. Topics include Apple’s hardware price hikes in response to the global RAM/SSD shortage, and some spitballing on what we like about the UI changes in the MacOS 27 Golden Gate beta.
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Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good.
Links:
- RAM Doubler and DiskDoubler, which came from two different developers.
- StuffIt and Compact Pro.
- “Apple in China” by Patrick McGee.
- Patrick McGee on The Talk Show last year.
- “Go Computer Now!”, Ben Zotto’s book on Sphere Computer Corporation.
- Movies:
- "Apple Faced Bipartisan Opposition When It Last Lobbied to Buy Chinese RAM in 2022".
- Gnome, Lex Friedman's clever new animated GIF search/library utility for Mac and iOS. (Also: My link to Gnome at DF.)
- Biff! -- Moltz's fun superhero TV/movie podcast cohosted with Dan Moren and Guy English.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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Louie Mantia returns to the show to talk about the state of UI and icon design on Apple's platforms, and some speculation on Apple's trade secret lawsuit against OpenAI.
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Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good.
Links:
- Louie on the squircle: “The Shape of Apps”.
- Me, linking to Louie on the squircle.
- Louie on Alan Dye: “A Responsibility to the Industry”.
- Me: “Bad Dye Job”.
- Me, after WWDC 2025, comparing Dye’s introduction of Liquid Glass to Steve Jobs’s introduction of Aqua back in January 2000.
- UI designer Chan Karunamuni’s tweet on Steve Lemay: “Steve’s been my manager for my entire 15 year career so far at Apple and I could not be more excited for this new era.”.
- Karunamuni’s Twitter/X account, with links regarding Liquid Glass, the Dynamic Island, and the cool Flashlight beam UI.
- Louie on The Talk Show last year.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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