
353: ‘Shop Different’, With Michael Steeber
The Talk Show With John Gruber
07/31/22
•124m
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Special guest Michael Steeber joins the show to discuss his new project, The Apple Store Time Machine — an intricately-detailed explorable walkthrough of four of Apple’s original retail stores.
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- Michael Steeber’s homepage.
- The App Store Time Machine.
- Steeber’s first crack at the idea of recreating original Apple Stores virtually, this one using ARKit last year.
- Tabletops, Steeber’s newsletter.
- Steeber’s Apple Store Glossary.
- A 4-minute video from the grand opening of the Glendale Galleria Apple Store on 19 May 2001. Apple opened its first two stores that day — in Glendale, California and Tysons, Virginia. Customers waited for three hours to enter the store and were happy to do so.
- Signage outside the Lincoln Park Apple Store in Chicago, with “Apple Store” anachronistically set in Apple Garamond.
- Apple Marina Bay Sands, in Singapore. Just gorgeous.
- Apple Carnegie Library, in Washington, DC.
- Apple Tower Theatre, in Los Angeles.
- Apple Walnut Street, in always-sunny Philadelphia.
- Walnut Street ransacked and burned during the George Floyd riots on 30 May 2020.
- My Instagram photo of the employee-painted mural coming to life on the boarded-up Walnut Street Apple Store, 13 June 2020. (Original JPEG, for posterity after Facebook collapses.)
- The finished mural.
- Bill Gates’s apparently apocryphal quote that “640K ought to be enough for anybody.”
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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