
324: ‘A Pretty Generic Thing You Stick in a Hole’, With Jason Snell
The Talk Show With John Gruber
09/30/21
•140m
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Jason Snell returns to the show to talk about the new iPhones 13, new iPad Mini, Safari 15’s craptacular new tab UI, and the insightful questions posed to Kevin Durant on the Brooklyn Nets’ media day from Basketball Digest’s best NBA reporter.
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Links:
- Garmin Adventure Watches.
- Daring Fireball: “Why Does the iPhone Still Use Lightning?”
- Jason's iPad Mini review.
- My iPad Mini review.
- Steve Krug’s “Don’t Make Me Think”.
- Don Norman’s “The Design of Everyday Things”, which I conflated with Krug’s “Don’t Make Me Think” during the show, but about which Jason promptly corrected me.
- “Downstream” — Jason’s new podcast with Julia Alexander.
- “This is Dave from Basketball Digest.”
- “My Next Guest Needs no Introduction”.
- “The PosCast” with Joe Posnanski and Michael Schur.
- New Orleans Pelicans.
- Charlotte Hornets.
- Utah Jazz.
- Giants and Dodgers.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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323: ‘Skeptical Not Cynical’, With Matthew Panzarino
September 28, 2021
•99m
Matthew Panzarino returns to the show to talk about the new iPhones 13 and their camera systems.
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Links:
- Panzarino’s iPhone 13 review.
- My iPhone 13 review.
- Panzarino’s follow-up feature on Cinematic mode, interviewing Apple’s Kaiann Drance and Johnnie Manzari, and my comments thereupon.
- A typical good dedicated macro lens: Canon’s $1,300 100mm ƒ/2.8 USM.
- ‘Float’ — Aundre Larrow’s beautiful short film, shot on an iPhone 13 Pro using Cinematic mode.
- Austin Mann’s iPhone 13 Pro camera review, from a safari in Tanzania, and my comments, from my home office in Philadelphia.
- From the DF Archive 2007: “iPhone First Impressions”.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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325: ‘The Negative Version of Icing on the Cake’, With Nilay Patel
October 16, 2021
•147m
Special guest: Nilay Patel. Special topics: the iPhones 13, Apple Watch Series 7, kids today and the file system, the Lightning / USB-C debate, and, of course, our speculation about next week’s “Unleashed” Apple event.
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Links:
- Business Insider feature suggesting Apple’s health initiatives are unfocused. (News+ link.)
- Monica Chin at The Verge: “File Not Found” — how kids today don’t understand computer file systems.
- Float — Aundre Larrow’s beautiful short film, shot using iPhone 13’s Cinematic Mode.
- Nilay’s excellent interview podcast, Decoder.
- My review of the Apple Watch Series 7.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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