
322: ‘It Was More Arial Than Helvetica’, With Rene Ritchie
The Talk Show With John Gruber
09/18/21
•124m
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Rene Ritchie returns to the show for a recap of this week’s “California Streaming” Apple Event: the iPhones 13, Apple Watch Series 7, and new iPads. Also, last week’s decision in the Apple v. Epic lawsuit.
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- Apple’s event page for “California Streaming”.
- Yours truly’s thoughts and observations.
- Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers’s decision in the Apple v. Epic case.
- Stephen Warwick’s humorous summary of the decision.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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321: ‘Just a Standard Bird’, With MG Siegler
August 31, 2021
•117m
MG Siegler returns to the show to talk about last week’s surprise announcement from Apple settling a class action lawsuit filed on behalf of U.S. App Store developers, and the various reactions to it. Also, a bit on App Store payment processing, and some speculation on who might succeed Tim Cook.
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Links:
- Apple’s masterful press release that got them just the headlines they were hoping to get.
- Techmeme’s roundup of Big Press headlines regarding Apple’s settlement proposal for the class action lawsuit regarding the App Store in the U.S.
- Bloomberg got it right: “Apple Settles With App Developers Without Making Major Concessions”.
- Ryan Jones’s excellent Twitter thread that accurately depicts the actual nature of Apple’s settlement proposal.
- Jack Nicas’s column for the NYT: “Why Apple Won Its Legal Settlement With Developers”.
- MG on Apple’s press release: “Thank You, Apple! May We Have Another?”.
- And MG’s follow-up, “Apple Accentuates the Positive”.
- Apple’s earlier-on-Thursday announcement regarding the News Partner Program.
- Phil Schiller’s 2011 memo asking “Do we think our 70/30 split will last forever?”.
- Mark Gurman’s latest column, speculating on who might succeed Tim Cook as CEO.
- The Peter Principle — “a concept in management developed by Laurence J. Peter, which observes that people in a hierarchy tend to rise to their ‘maximum level of incompetence’”. (I blew it and said “Pareto Principle” on air, which is an entirely different thing, but also interesting.)
- Randy Johnson hits a bird with a pitch during a 2001 preseason MLB game.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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323: ‘Skeptical Not Cynical’, With Matthew Panzarino
September 28, 2021
•99m
Matthew Panzarino returns to the show to talk about the new iPhones 13 and their camera systems.
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Links:
- Panzarino’s iPhone 13 review.
- My iPhone 13 review.
- Panzarino’s follow-up feature on Cinematic mode, interviewing Apple’s Kaiann Drance and Johnnie Manzari, and my comments thereupon.
- A typical good dedicated macro lens: Canon’s $1,300 100mm ƒ/2.8 USM.
- ‘Float’ — Aundre Larrow’s beautiful short film, shot on an iPhone 13 Pro using Cinematic mode.
- Austin Mann’s iPhone 13 Pro camera review, from a safari in Tanzania, and my comments, from my home office in Philadelphia.
- From the DF Archive 2007: “iPhone First Impressions”.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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