
309: ‘Pinkies on the Semicolon’, With John Siracusa
The Talk Show With John Gruber
02/27/21
•173m
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The state of the Mac, with special guest John Siracusa.
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Links:
- Siracusa’s Mac OS X reviews:
- OS X 10.10 Yosemite
- OS X 10.9 Mavericks
- OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion
- Mac OS X 10.7 Lion
- Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard
- Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard
- Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger
- Mac OS X 10.3 Panther
- Mac OS X 10.2 Jaguar
- Mac OS X 10.1
- Mac OS X 10.0
- Mac OS X DP4
- Mac OS X DP3
- Mac OS X DP2
- Siracusa’s entire archive at Ars Technica
- Hypercritical — Siracusa’s seldom-updated website
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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308: ‘Peak Hubris’, With Christina Warren
February 19, 2021
•146m
Christina Warren returns to the show to talk about Apple Car, Apple TV, Clubhouse, and Bloomberg hamfistedly revisiting “The Big Hack”.
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Links:
- Daring Fireball posts on Bloomberg’s “Big Hack” update.
- “Hard News: The Scandals at The New York Times and Their Meaning for American Media” by Seth Mnookin.
- Zeynep Tucekci: “Critical Thinking Isn’t Just a Process” — interesting post about reading through the lines of authoritarian doublespeak.
- Marc Newson’s Ikepod watches, ideas which carried through to Apple Watch.
- Rocket — Christina’s podcast with Brianna Wu and Simone De Rochefort.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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310: ‘Russian Nesting Doll Code’, With Jason Snell
March 23, 2021
•151m
Special guest Jason Snell joins the show to reminisce over 20 years of Mac OS X. I mean OS X. Sorry, MacOS. Also: HomePod, Apple TV, and Intel’s awkward new ad campaign.
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Links:
- The 20 Macs for 2020 podcast project, now with all three bonus content episodes with yours truly.
- [Apple’s March 21, 2001 press release announcing Mac OS X 10.0’s release, including where to buy it (it came in a box and cost $129)](. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2001/03/21Mac-OS-X-Hits-Stores-This-Weekend/).
- Jason in August 2000: “Mac OS X: The Full Story”.
- Jason’s 10.1 story for Macworld.
- Steve Jobs claiming in 2005 — announcing the Mac’s Intel transition — that Mac OS X had set up Apple “for the next 20 years”.
- Jason: “Can Apple Explain Its Home Strategy?”.
- iMac Pro canceled in Friday night announcement.
- HomePod canceled the next Friday night.
- Dan Frakes’s review of the iPod Hi-Fi in 2006.
- Yours truly on Intel’s new “Go PC” campaign with Justin Long: “Intel Goes Long” and “Going Longer”.
- Stickergate.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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