
285: ‘Fahrenheit Truthers’ With Ben Thompson
The Talk Show With John Gruber
05/22/20
•144m
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Ben Thompson returns to the show and there’s no sports talk because there’s no sports. Instead: temperature scales, Joe Rogan and Spotify, and Dithering.
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Links:
- Dithering.
- Ben at Stratechery: “Dithering and Open Versus Free.”
- Me at DF: “Dithering” and “More on Dithering”.
- Me at Macworld back in 2010: “It’s the heaviness of the Mac that allows iOS to remain light.”
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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284: ‘30 Years of TidBITS’ With Adam Engst
May 8, 2020
•114m
Special guest Adam Engst joins the show to celebrate 30 years of TidBITS -- the only publication going strong today that started as a weekly HyperCard stack.
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Links:
- Adam Engst: “TidBITS Marks Its 30th Anniversary in a Time of Pandemic”.
- “Info-Mac is a discussion forum for Apple users as well as an archive of online content dating back to 1984.”
- The Mac compression wars: Raymond Lau’s StuffIt vs. Bill Goodman’s Compact Pro. I was a Compact Pro man, myself.
- The official Compact Pro website is, amazingly, still up.
- TidBITS issue 42, 11 February 1991: “Compression Wars”. That’s right, 1991.
- TidBITS’s coverage of MacHack over the years.
- My 1994 letter to Andy Ihnatko’s Help Desk column in MacUser magazine.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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286: Remote From WWDC 2020 With Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak
June 24, 2020
•95m
John Gruber is joined by Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak to discuss the news from WWDC 2020: the Mac’s transition to Apple silicon, MacOS 11 Big Sur, iOS and iPadOS 14, and more.
Video of this show is available on YouTube.
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Links:
- The WWDC 2020 Keynote.
- Apple announces Mac transition to Apple silicon.
- MacOS 11 Big Sur — new UI and all-new Catalyst-based version of Messages.
- iOS 14 — home screen widgets and app clips. And, finally, incoming phone call notifications don’t take over your entire screen.
- iPadOS 14 — new handwriting features with Apple Pencil.
- WatchOS 7 — watch face sharing, sleep tracking, and hand-washing detection.
The audio version of this episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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