
271: ‘A Perfect Wheel’ With Jason Snell
The Talk Show With John Gruber
12/12/19
•165m
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Special guest Jason Snell returns to the show for a brief chat about the new Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR, which are both — dare I say — finally available for ordering. Also: Ming Chi Kuo’s intriguing rumors on the 2020 and 2021 iPhone lineups.
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Links:
- Jason at Macworld: “The Mac Pro Is an Important Symbol, but You Probably Shouldn’t Buy It”.
- Greg Joswiak and Craig Federighi on stage at this year’s The Talk Show Live From WWDC, on the price of the Mac Pro’s optional wheels.
- The new Mac Pro has unique keyboard, trackpad, and mouse — black keys/glass and silver aluminum bottoms. It even comes with a black USB-C to Lightning cable and black power cable.
- Marques Brownlee’s Mac Pro review on YouTube. Also: Pro Display XDR.
- Justine Ezarik’s Mac Pro review on YouTube. Also: Behind the scenes.
- MacStories’ roundup of other Mac Pro / Pro Display XDR reviews and first impressions.
- Ming Chi Kuo’s 2020 iPhone roadmap.
- New iPhone “SE” to be called iPhone 9?
- Upgrade 275: “Remove All of the Holes”.
- The Mac IIfx debuted in March 1990 at a price of $9,900. Inflation adjusted, that’s $19,400 — give or take — in today’s dollars.
- Spectre, the greatest Mac game of all time (come at me).
- The language formerly known as “Perl 6” — first announced in July 2000 (!) — is now Raku. And Perl 5 — the one true Perl — is up to version 30.
- “Kotoba: The Best iOS Dictionary App You’ve Never Heard Of”.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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270: ‘Talking About Crimes’ With Matthew Yglesias
November 27, 2019
•119m
Very special guest Matthew Yglesias joins the show to talk about Tim Cook cozying up to Trump for tariff relief and more.
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Links:
- Tim Cook interview with Brian Williams in 2012 announcing Mac Pro would be assembled in USA.
- Tesla Cybertruck.
- New iPhone 11 battery cases.
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This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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272: ‘The Save Twitch’ With Rich Siegel
December 24, 2019
•119m
For your holiday listening enjoyment, very special guest Rich Siegel joins the show to talk about BBEdit’s past, present, and future, the state of developing for the Mac, and more.
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Links:
- My “Uses This” interview from 10 years ago.
- Andy Baio’s ten-years-delayed “Uses This” interview.
- Rich Siegel on Twitter.
- BBEdit’s public debut in April 1992.
- BBEdit’s 20th anniversary — nine years ago.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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