
186: ‘Good News, My House Burned Down’ With Matthew Panzarino
The Talk Show With John Gruber
04/13/17
•123m
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Matthew Panzarino returns to the show for an in-depth discussion of last week's "future of the Mac Pro" round table discussion between a handful of Apple executives and journalists who cover the company. We talk about what went wrong with the 2013 Mac Pro design, speculate on the timeline of when Apple made this decision, why touchscreen Macs are almost certainly a bad idea even though a lot of people think they want one, and more.
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- Matthew’s story for TechCrunch on the Mac Pro meeting.
- Yours truly’s story for Daring Fireball.
- Apple CFO Luca Maestri on using Circle With Disney with his family. (In Italian.)
- Longtime Mac developer Dan Counsell on building a hackintosh.
- Jonathan Hoefler’s posted-to-Twitter critique of a work-in-progress typeface design from Louie Mantia.
- Notability, the app Hoefler & Co. use for annotating typeface designs on iPad Pro with Apple Pencil.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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185: ‘Warmest Regards’ With Dan Frommer
March 31, 2017
•141m
Special guest Dan Frommer returns to the show. Topics include the end of The Deck ad network, my weird story about getting kicked out of Amazon’s affiliate program, Apple’s new products announced last week (Red iPhone 7 models, larger-capacity iPhone SEs, the new 9.7-inch just-plain iPad, and Apple’s excellent new Clips app), Samsung’s new Galaxy S8, Twitter’s new reply system, CarPlay getting its ass kicked in a head-to-head comparison with Android Auto, ISPs and Privacy, and more.
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Links:
- Jim Coudal announces the end of The Deck.
- My farewell to The Deck.
- Clips.
- Dan Frommer on the Galaxy S8 taking a bit of the piss out Apple's purported edge-to-edge iPhone coming later this year.
- Dan Seifert’s report on the Galaxy S8, from Samsung’s headquarters in South Korea.
- Viv, the Samsung-acquired voice-AI system from the creators of Siri.
- The 12-year old Daring Fireball post that apparently got me kicked out of Amazon's affiliate program.
- Andy Rubin's teaser tweet.
- Eric Schmidt's tweet promoting Rubin's teaser, on the day of Samsung's S8 announcement.
- Android Auto vs. CarPlay head-to-head.
- Sam Biddle tries to get a telecom PR rep to make sense of their official position on “protecting user privacy”.
- The iPhone Math, Dan’s favorite busted-ass rumor.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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187: ‘Forget About Frodo and Sam’ With MG Siegler
April 18, 2017
•146m
MG Siegler returns to the show. Topics includes Virgin America's sad fate as a subsidiary of Alaska Airlines, the Touch Bar on the new MacBook Pros, "doing work" on an iPad Pro, Walt Mossberg, the absurd bloat of iOS apps, Clips, Netflix and Amazon's spending on video, and more.
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Links:
- MG: The Great Laptop Stagnation.
- MG: Death of a Virgin.
- MG: The Squid.
- Columbia Journalism Review's interview with Walt Mossberg.
- Mark Gurman's new weekly video show for Bloomberg.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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