The Modern Sex Work Debate - Bonnie Blue & Louise Perry - #997
Modern Wisdom
09/22/25
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Louise Perry is a writer, Press Officer for the campaign group We Can’t Consent To This and an author.
Bonnie Blue is a British pornographic actress and online content creator.
Louise is the author of The Case Against The Sexual Revolution and Bonnie is the world’s most extreme example of the sexual revolution in action, so I figured it might make for an interesting discussion. I wasn’t disappointed. It’s a calm, regulated, deep dive into modern sex culture and feminism.
Expect to learn whether Louise thinks Bonnie’s work should be illegal, whether British women are being given a bad name to potential immigrants, whether Bonnie’s fertility problems contributed to her trajectory in life, whether the sexual revolution made women freer or more vulnerable, if Louise thinks that Bonnie is a psychopath, the difference between sex work and performance art and much more...
Timestamps:
(0:00) Why Does Bonnie Do Sex Work?
(10:50) Bonnie’s Thoughts on What It’s Really Like Sleeping With Lots of Men
(16:34) What Motivates Bonnie?
(21:37) Why Bonnie Doesn't Mind Women Hating Her
(27:42) Louise’s Opinion on Bonnie’s Work
(38:53) Is Bonnie’s Fame Culturally Damaging?
(52:06) Is Bonnie Teaching Men Safe and Consensual Sex?
(01:00:40) Should We Watch More Porn?
(01:07:46) What Has Bonnie Lost Through Sex Work?
(01:14:49) Bonnie’s Approach to Criticism
(01:25:06) How Does Bonnie’s Work Affect Her Family Life?
(01:33:14) Why is Bonnie Sensitive About Pregnancy?
(01:43:39) What Makes Bonnie So Interesting?
(01:52:52) Why Do People Think Bonnie is a Victim?
(01:58:36) Louise’s Analysis of Bonnie
(02:02:55) Louise and Bonnie’s Steelman Arguments
(02:11:19) What Happens Next?
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Why Population Collapse is Closer Than You Think - Stephen J. Shaw - #996
September 20, 2025
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Stephen J. Shaw is a data scientist and filmmaker.
Birth rates in Western countries are collapsing, a trend even Elon Musk calls an existential threat. But what’s the true cause? Is it economics, fear of the future, cultural shifts, or something deeper? And more importantly, can anything actually reverse the decline?
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(0:00) Global Birth Rate Decline is Keeps Stephen Up at Night
(6:47) Why We Should Care About Birth Rates
Why are Falling Birth Rates So Concerning?
(18:29) What Will the Population Look Like in 50 Years?
What Stephen Thinks the Population Will Looks Like in 50 Years
(30:07) Why It’s Now Harder to Become a Parent
(35:25) Why Women Over 30 are Less Likely to Become a Mother
(44:55) What Factors are Causing Drops in Birth Rate?
(59:50) Stephen Thoughts on Involuntary Childlessness
(01:15:14) The Clash Between Those Who Want Children and Those Who Don’t
(01:22:58) Are Antinatalists Evil?
(01:30:02) What are the Macro Impacts on Birth Rate Decline?
(01:46:59) Does Stephen Think Discussing Birth Rates is Right Wing Coded?
(01:59:47) Stephen’s View on the Societal Half-Life
(02:04:15) Would IVF or Adoption Stop Declining Birth Rates?
(02:18:31) What Interventions Don’t Work?
(02:24:44) Young People Want to Put Themselves First
(02:41:56) How We Can Learn Start Boosting Birth Rates
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Everything You Want Is On The Other Side Of Cringe - Zack Telander - #998
September 25, 2025
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Zack Telander is a musician, weightlifter, coach & YouTuber.
Why are we so afraid of being cringe? If being cringe online is the price of success, why don’t more people pay it? So how do you train yourself past criticism and actually do what needs to be done in your life, whether people are watching you or not?
Expect to learn why getting over being cringe is the key to unlocking the things you want in life, what it actually means to be “cool”, why using irony may be an overrated conversational tool, the importance of taking pleasure in the little things in life, Zack’s reflections on what it was like running for 100-days straight, the reason the health community pushes back on GLP-1's so much, why so many grifters drive critique online, and much more...
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(10:51) We Need to Take More Pleasure in the Little Things
(18:17) How Has the Comments Section Changed Us?
(23:18) Zack’s Opinion on Getting Out Over Your Skis
(37:25) Grifters are Driving Critique Online
(42:43) Does Trying to Be Cool Make You Cringe?
(55:22) Why Zack Thinks It’s Becoming Harder to Be Your Authentic Self
(01:03:51) Performance Massively Enhances GLP-1 Use
(01:12:33) What Zack Learnt From Running For 100 Days
(01:20:52) Chris’ Thoughts on What Makes Sport Compelling
(01:29:15) Why Chris Wishes He Cared Less About Judgement
(01:38:49) Human Connections Fill Us With Gratitude
(01:45:15) Zack’s Gratitude Towards Chris
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