
445: ‘Apple at 50’, With John Siracusa
The Talk Show With John Gruber
04/01/26
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Who better to join the show to commemorate Apple’s 50th anniversary than John Siracusa?
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Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good.
Links:
- The Commodore VIC-20.
- Apple’s looks-good-to-this-day “Snow White” hardware design language from the 1980s, created in collaboration with Frog Design.
- The Apple IIc — in my opinion, the epitome of “Snow White”.
- Frog Designed turned 50 back in 2019, and The Verge has some amazing photos from their collection, including a jaw-dropping prototype for the Lisa.
- Star Blazers.
- Yours truly, back in 2014, on the Finder’s “Special” menu.
- Yours truly guesting on The Verge’s Version History podcast, to talk about the original Macintosh.
- Hyperspace — Siracusa’s perfectly-named Mac utility for saving space via APFS magic.
- ATP (a pretty good podcast), and episode 683 in particular (a pretty good episode of that podcast, wherein Marco Arment tells the tale of the Mac Mini server farm he built for Overcast’s now-in-beta generated-transcripts feature).
- Infinite Mac — classic Mac (and NeXTStep) emulators that run in your web browser.
- “Can’t innovate anymore, my ass.”
- ResEdit 2.1 Reference — still hosted at Apple’s website.
- SNL’s “McIntosh Jr.” commercial, the best Apple parody ad ever made.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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Christina Warren returns to the show to discuss Apple’s big month of product announcements — in particular, the iPhone 17e and MacBook Neo. And we pour one out for the Mac Pro.
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Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good.
Links:
- The iPhone 17e.
- Thoughts and Observations on the MacBook Neo.
- My review: The MacBook Neo.
- Apple Discontinues the Mac Pro With No Plans to Bring It Back.
- Yankees-Giants opens MLB season, on Netflix.
- Nomad 65W Slim Power Adapter.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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446: ‘Food and Beverage Director’, With MG Siegler
April 30
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MG Siegler returns to the show to discuss Apple’s announcement that Tim Cook is stepping aside (into the role of executive chairman) and John Ternus will become CEO.
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Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good.
Links:
- Apple Newsroom:
- MG, at Spyglass:
- Yours truly:
- Steven Levy:
- 2008: “Joe Nocera Gets a Call From Steve Jobs”.
- 2010, regarding Mark Papermaster, whom Steve Jobs fired just weeks after the iPhone 4 antennagate press conference: “Papermaster and That Damn Antenna.”
- “Look at how many blueberries your muffin has, and how many mine has. Yours is falling apart. I have nothing.”
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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