
436: ‘Financial Boner’, With Tyler Hayes
The Talk Show With John Gruber
11/30/25
•95m
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Special guest: Tyler Hayes. Topics include how to get a small phone today, which way foldables should fold, the state of Apple TV (including its new “sonic logo”), and some holiday gift gadget recommendations.
Sponsored by:
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Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good.
Links:
- This Week The Trend.
- Tyler on the flip-style Motorola Razr as a small phone solution.
- Tyler: “Apple TV Is Finally Worth $99 Per Year”.
- Ad Age: “Apple TV’s Colorful New Branding Was Built With Glass and Captured In-Camera”.
- Aura Ink, $500 e-paper picture frame.
- Chargers:
- Anker Nano 70W 3-port charger — $50, on sale for $32 if you act fast.
- Nomad’s excellent “slim” chargers, in 40W (one port), 65W (two ports), and 100W (two ports) — I think the 65W one is the sweet spot.
- Nomad’s Wallet Tracking Card, compatible with Find My. (Not mentioned on the show, but very cool — Tyler and I both own one and recommend them.).
- Sharge’s Pixel 100W and 140W chargers, with cool fat-pixel dot-matrix displays on the side.
- The Sigma BF, a gorgeous, minimal L-mount camera.
- Govee Smart Christmas Lights.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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435: ‘Lincoln Bio Services’, With Stephen Robles
November 21, 2025
•78m
Special guest Stephen Robles joins the show. Topics include indie media and YouTube, Shortcuts and automation, and the state of podcasting.
Sponsored by:
- Uncommon Goods: Out of the ordinary gifts, great for the holidays. Save 15% off your next purchase after following that link.
Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good.
Links:
- Stephen goes indie:
- Stephen’s YouTube channel.
- Announcement: “I Don't Have a Job Anymore, Thanks to You”.
- Video: “These Shortcuts Are Magic”.
- Primary Technology: Stephen's podcast, with cohost Jason Aten.
- Apple Podcasts and AI-generated chapters:
- Apple Podcasts for Creators: “Enhance Your Episodes With Chapters, Links, and More”.
- Daring Fireball: “Apple Podcasts Is Adding AI-Generated Chapters for Podcasts Without Chapters”.
- Primary Technology discussion.
- Beard.fm: “Apple’s Losing Its Podcast Legacy”.
- Downie, a fantastic Mac app for downloading local copies of videos from the web (especially YouTube).
- Daring Fireball post on Downie 4, from early this year.
- Transloader — Apps from Eternal Storms that allow you to initiate downloads on a Mac remotely from an iPhone, iPad, or another Mac.
- F-Bomb paperweight at sponsor Uncommon Goods.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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437: ‘A Naughty Citizen’, With Quinn Nelson
December 24, 2025
•148m
Special guest Quinn Nelson returns for a two-topic holiday spectacular: the iPad in the wake of iPadOS 26, and Apple's executive changes as Tim Cook seemingly nears the end of his time as CEO.
Sponsored by:
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Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good.
Links:
- Quinn on YouTube:
- "The iPad's Software Problem Is Permanent".
- "Apple Is Falling Apart (On Purpose)" (on executive shuffling).
- Spark -- Quinn's email app of choice.
- Yours truly back in January 2020: "The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10".
- Slide Over was originally eliminated in iPadOS 26 but came back in 26.1.
- Apple Notes extension apps, available on the Mac because they're only possible on the Mac because the iPad and iPhone are baby computers:
- Mark Papermaster, the hardware executive who took the fall for the iPhone 4 antenna saga.
- The classic cartoon from 2013: "Organizational Charts of Amazon, Apple, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Oracle".
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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