423: ‘Sewing Machine Repair Shop’, With Patrick McGee
The Talk Show With John Gruber
05/29/25
•92m
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Patrick McGee joins the show to discuss his must-read new book, Apple in China -- one of the best books about Apple anyone has ever written.
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Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good.
Links:
- “Apple in China”, Patrick’s spectacular new book.
- Patrick on The Daily Show With Jon Stewart.
- Excerpt from the book in the Sunday Times of London.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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Stephen Hackett, proprietor of 512 Pixels and co-founder of Relay (purveyor of many fine podcasts), joins the show. Topics include: IO (or if you will, io), the new joint venture of OpenAI and Jony Ive’s LoveFrom; the sheer fantasy of “Made in America” iPhones; and Fortnite’s return to the US App Store.
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Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good.
Links:
- Apple in China, Patrick’s spectacular new book.
- Patrick on The Daily Show With Jon Stewart.
- Excerpt from the book in the Sunday Times of London.
- Millions, Billions, Zillions, Brian Kernighan’s fun little book on practical day-to-day math.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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424: ‘Live From WWDC 2025’, With Joanna Stern and Nilay Patel
June 14, 2025
•126m
Recorded in front of a live audience at The California Theatre in San Jose Tuesday evening, special guests Joanna Stern and Nilay Patel join me to discuss Apple’s announcements at WWDC 2025.
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Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good.
Links:
- WWDC 2025 Keynote.
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- The Verge: 28-minute supercut of the WWDC 2025 keynote and their take on the 13 biggest announcements.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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