
410: ‘Shipping vs. Shipping’, With Jason Snell
The Talk Show With John Gruber
09/30/24
•132m
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Jason Snell returns to the show to discuss Apple’s September product announcements, and Meta’s Orion prototype AR glasses. Absolutely no baseball talk, almost.
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Links:
- Ten years of Six Colors.
- Take Control of Photos (updated for iOS 18 and MacOS 15 Sequoia).
- KQED: Fans Flood Coliseum to Bid Emotional Farewell to A’s at Last Game in Oakland.
- A’s fan who was at their first game in Oakland in 1968, and their final game last week.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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409: ‘The Dynamic Paradox’, With Nilay Patel
September 26, 2024
•163m
Nilay Patel returns to the show to consider the iPhones 16.
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Links:
- Nilay’s review of the iPhone 16 Pro.
- Also from Nilay: “Let’s Compare Apple, Google, and Samsung’s Definitions of ‘a Photo’”.
- Yours Truly’s iPhones 16 review.
- Also from truly: “The Things They Carried” (thoughts and observations on Apple’s event).
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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411: ‘An Acoustic Nightmare’, With Tyler Stalman
October 7, 2024
•113m
Tyler Stalman joins the show to discuss the iPhone 16 lineup’s cameras, and the state of iPhone photography.
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Links:
- Tyler Stalman on YouTube:
- Tyler’s recommended Photographic Styles recipe:
- Undertone: Amber
- Tone: -50 to -60
- Color: 20
- Palette: 100
- JPEG XL.
- Steven Soderbergh has shot two feature films on iPhones:
- Robert Rodriguez:
- El Mariachi — his debut feature film, shot for just $7,000 in 1992.
- Desperado — his big-budget 1995 sequel, starring Antonio Banderas and Selma Hayek.
- Rebel Without a Crew — Rodriguez’s book on the making of El Mariachi.
- Benedict Evans: “The Best Is the Last”.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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