
405: ‘Chutes and Ladders’, With Hunter Hillegas
The Talk Show With John Gruber
07/28/24
•116m
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Special guest Hunter Hillegas, author of the excellent Vegas Mate app, joins the show to discuss euphemistic emoji, the CrowdStrike fiasco, and the closing of the iconic Mirage resort in Las Vegas.
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Links:
- Vegas Mate.
- Hunter Hillegas on Mastodon.
- Benedict Evans: “The Best Is the Last”
- Leonard Rosenthol.
- OSA Menu.
- Unsanity Haxies.
- Marco Arment talking about Overcast’s big new version on ATP.
- 2009 “60 Minutes” profile of Steve Wynn.
- 1991 in-room video for Mirage guests, narrated by Steve Wynn.
- Steve Wynn’s daughter’s kidnapping in 1993. Would make for a great movie.
- How the kidnapper was caught, trying to buy a Ferrari with cash.
- “The Conjuring of The Mirage” — terrific feature for Vegas Seven by David G. Schwartz marking the 25th anniversary of The Mirage in 2014.
- Inside The Villas at The Mirage.
- The renovated Linai at The Mirage.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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404: ‘Curiously Short Episodes’, With John Moltz
June 30, 2024
•77m
John Moltz returns to the show for a holiday-week look at the best of recent prestige streaming content, particularly Apple TV+. And, yes, a bit on the latest Apple/EU/DMA drama.
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Links:
- Godzilla Minus One
- “Monarch: Legacy of Monsters”
- “Counterpart” — The best show you’ve maybe never heard of
- “Dark Matter”
- “Severance”
- “Foundation”
- “Presumed Innocent”
- “Palm Royale”
- “Masters of the Air”
- “Sugar”
- “For All Mankind”
- “Silo”
- “Shrinking”
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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406: ‘Hock TUAW’, With Christina Warren
July 31, 2024
•103m
Christina Warren (a.k.a. "Mary Brown") returns to the show. Topics include Apple's new iOS 18.1 and MacOS 15.1 betas (featuring Apple Intelligence), a little reminiscing about Gil Amelio and Steve Jobs, and the bizarre saga of TUAW, resurrected as a zombie AI slopsite.
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Links:
- “On the Firing Line: My 500 Days at Apple” by Gil Amelio.
- Steve Jobs introduces the Mac OS X Dock — and the purple “single window mode” button — at MWSF 2000.
- Coverage of zombie TUAW and Christina's AI-generated alter ego:
- Christina, announcing the scam on Threads, and on Mastodon, both of which resulted in interesting threads.
- Karissa Bell at Engadget: "[Apple Blog TUAW Returns as an AI Content Farm](Apple blog TUAW returns as an AI content farm)".
- Jason Koebler at 404 Media: “Hocked TUAW”.
- The Verge: “Early Apple Tech Bloggers Are Shocked to Find Their Name and Work Have Been AI-Zombified”.
- Ernie Smith, deducing that the new owner of TUAW is Haider Ali Khan, and that he also bought the ilounge.com domain name.
- A very much NSFW tweet testing Apple Intelligence's familiarity with current slang.
- MTV News shut down and the jerks at Paramount pulled the plug on their decades-long archive.
- Brett Terpstra.
- Ernie Smith, author of Tedium and creator of udm14.com, a single-serving site that shows you how to make Google's "web" view your default for search.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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