
390: ‘The Blurry Edge of Acceptable’, With Nilay Patel
The Talk Show With John Gruber
11/30/23
•122m
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Nilay Patel returns to the show. Topics include the iPhones 15, journalism in the age of AI, and what it’s like to have Barack Obama on your podcast.
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- Barack Fucking Obama on Decoder.
- Matthew Panzarino on Decoder.
- Sports Illustrated’s phony AI writers.
- Horace Dediu back in 2011: “The Cook Doctrine”.
- Searching YouTube for “LG vs. GE refrigerators”.
- Nilay’s Pulitzer-nominated investigation into how many wiper blades are on the Tesla Cybertruck.
- Doug DeMuro’s car-review YouTube channel.
- Red Lion Broadcasting Co. v. FCC.
- Steve Jobs on how most professional managers are bozos.
- Nilay’s AI-written article: “Best printer 2023: just buy this Brother laser printer everyone has, it’s fine”.
- Amanda Chicago Lewis’s crackerjack feature story at The Verge on SEO “experts”: “The People Who Ruined the Internet”.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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389: ‘Two-Legged Stool’, With Gabe Rivera
November 22, 2023
•122m
Special guest Gabe Rivera, founder of the indispensable news aggregator Techmeme, joins the show to talk about the state of news and social media.
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- Techmeme.
- Mediagazer -- Techmeme's sibling site focused on media news.
- Memeorandum -- Political news, auto-aggregated.
- Gabe, on Threads, advocating for a much-needed posting API.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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391: ‘Error -37’, With John Siracusa
December 23, 2023
•163m
Special holiday guest: John Siracusa. Special holiday topics: the Apple/Masimo patent dispute over the blood oxygen sensors in Apple Watches, the ongoing Beeper Mini/iMessage saga, iOS 17.3’s upcoming Stolen Device Protection feature, Apple’s new Journal app. Also, an ode to big-ass tower desktops.
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Links:
- Derek Sivers: “Ideas are just a multiplier of execution”.
- Imran Chaudhri’s humble home page.
- The inventors of insulin sold the patent for $1 for the good of the world — yet insulin remains expensive in the U.S.
- Destiny’s BEAVER/FLATWORM/LEOPARD errors.
- Twelve South’s new ButterFly 2-in-1 MagSafe Charger.
- NZXT gaming PCs.
- Power Macintosh 9600/350.
- Apple’s new Journal app:
- Apple Newsroom announcement — gives a good overview.
- The current HIG chapter on progress indicators.
- Sebastian Ferrari on the use of “floating action buttons” in iOS, including the handful of spots prior to Journal where Apple has used them.
- Accidental Tech Podcast: A Siracusa podcast I always listen to.
- Reconcilable Differences: A Siracusa podcast I sometimes listen to.
- Robot or Not: A Siracusa podcast I’ve never listened to but probably should.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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