
366: ‘Measure Seven Times, Cut Once’, With Glenn Fleishman
The Talk Show With John Gruber
12/31/22
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Glenn Fleishman returns to the show to talk about reported setbacks in Apple's silicon division, the LastPass vault leak and password management, and the frontiers of social networking. Also, the joys of modern air travel during the holidays.
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Links:
- Apple silicon woes:
- Jeremi Gosney summarizing the situation with LastPass.
- Seat 31B: "The Great Southwest Meltdown of 2022". Terrific explainer about how Southwest is different from other airlines.
- Rubén Caballero -- formerly head of wireless technology engineering at Apple; now working for Microsoft.
- Glenn's books on security.
- Stochastic screening.
- "Shift Happens" -- the keyboards book Glenn has been working on with Marcin Wichary since 2018.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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365: ‘Permanent September’, With Rene Ritchie
December 22, 2022
•165m
Rene Ritchie returns to the show to talk about recent news (Twitter, Freeform, iCloud Advanced Data Protection, the EU’s new Digital Markets Act) and Apple’s 2022 year in review.
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Links:
- Daring Fireball: “If a Third-Party App Store Falls in the Forest and No One Uses It, Does It Make a Sound?”
- Rene’s YouTube channel.
- Mark Gurman’s report for Bloomberg on Apple’s work complying with the sideloading and third-party app store mandates in the DMA.
- Freeform, Apple’s new collaborative whiteboard app for Mac and iOS.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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367: ‘Slow-Moving Hurricane’, With Craig Hockenberry
January 19, 2023
•170m
Craig Hockenberry returns to the show to talk about the demise of third-party Twitter clients, the overall Twitter shitshow, touchscreens on the Mac, and the perils of autocorrect when you have a clever username.
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Links:
- Black Girls Code — recipients of $100 for each utterance of you-know-who’s name during this episode.
- From the Daring Fireball archive (2009): “Twitter Clients Are a UI Design Playground”.
- Craig, this week: “The Shit Show”.
- My take this week: “Twitterrific: End of an Era”.
- The Iconfactory’s other apps:
- Edovia’s Screens — amazing VNC app to use your Mac from iOS devices.
- Lights Off — the first-ever game for iPhone, still available in the App Store.
- EDGE “2G” cellular data networking.
- Blaine Cook, early Twitter engineer and champion of third-party client APIs, now all-in on Mastodon.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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