
334: ‘High-Margin Candy Bar’, With Dieter Bohn
The Talk Show With John Gruber
01/08/22
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Dieter Bohn joins the show to talk about his excellent new documentary, Springboard: The Secret History of the First Real Smartphone -- a history of Handspring and the creators of the original PalmPilot.
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Links:
- “Springboard: The Secret History of the First Real Smartphone” — the full 30-minute documentary.
- (That same link has Dieter’s bonus material, too, including his corrected version of Ed Colligan’s infamous December 2006 quip about the then-imminent iPhone.)
- “The Zen of Palm” (PDF) — Palm’s HIG and design philosophy.
- Palm OS’s Graffiti handwriting system, including an illustrated cheatsheet of the gestures.
- PalmOS devices:
- The Palm Pre — Palm’s answer to the iPhone in 2009.
- TreoCentral and VisorCentral — both sites long defunct, but still available online.
- BlackBerry-esque prototype Android devices from before Google saw the iPhone.
- HTC’s G1 — The first commercial Android phone (a real turd).
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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333: ‘Schrödinger’s Feature’, With Rene Ritchie
December 31, 2021
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Apple’s 2021 year in review, with special guest Rene Ritchie.
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Links:
- January:
- February:
- iOS 14.5 and unlocking with Apple Watch while wearing a mask.
- March:
- April:
- May:
- Epic v. Apple court case.
- App Store: The Schiller Cut.
- New Apple TV 4K and Siri Remote.
- M1 iPad Pros.
- 24-inch M1 iMacs.
- June:
- August:
- September:
- “California Streaming” event.
- iPhones 13
- iPad Mini
- iOS 15 and WatchOS 8.
- Kevin Lynch takes over “TitanOS”.
- October:
- Apple Watch Series 7
- M1 Pro/Max MacBook Pros
- MacOS 12 Monterey
- Shortcuts.
- November:
- December:
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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335: ‘Blofeld-69-420’, With Guy English
January 26, 2022
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Guy English returns to the show to talk about video games, the cold, the Heat, and the state of streaming video services.
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Links:
- “Heat 2”:
- “Heat”.
- Michael Mann’s tweet announcing “Heat 2”.
- I almost plotzed.
- Michael Mann on The Rewatchables in November 2021, talking about “Heat”.
- Roger Ebert in 2010: “Video Games Can Never Be Art”.
- Me, in 2014: “I really wish [Ebert] had lived to see ‘Firewatch’.”
- “The Making of N64 Goldeneye: A 90s Video Game Masterpiece”.
- Rogue Amoeba: Audio Hijack.
- Yours truly speaking at XOXO 2014, on how Google Reader shutting down gave me the idea that has funded Daring Fireball ever since.
- BeOS screenshots — were those just-wide-enough-for-the-title window title bars a good idea or a gimmick?
- Netflix Chicken Littles.
- “Biff” podcast on The Incomparable — “Dan Moren, John Moltz, and Guy English discuss superhero TV shows and movies in the inimitable style that their loyal readers have come to love.”
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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