
320: ‘Paper Floor Mats’, With Christina Warren
The Talk Show With John Gruber
08/23/21
•128m
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Christina Warren returns to the show to discuss Apple’s controversial child safety initiatives, the tumultuous summer of Safari 15 beta UI designs, and a bit more on MagSafe battery packs.
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This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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319: ‘You Called Him Pixel Mature’, With John Moltz
July 30, 2021
•106m
Special guest: John Moltz. Special topics: Playdate preorders, MagSafe battery packs, iPad keyboard covers, Facebook and NSO Group, Safari 15 betas, and Loki.
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- Apple’s masterful press release that got them just the headlines they were hoping to get.
- Techmeme’s roundup of Big Press headlines regarding Apple’s settlement proposal for the class action lawsuit regarding the App Store in the U.S.
- Bloomberg got it right: “Apple Settles With App Developers Without Making Major Concessions”.
- Ryan Jones’s excellent Twitter thread that accurately depicts the actual nature of Apple’s settlement proposal.
- Jack Nicas’s column for the NYT: “Why Apple Won Its Legal Settlement With Developers”.
- MG on Apple’s press release: “Thank You, Apple! May We Have Another?”.
- And MG’s follow-up, “Apple Accentuates the Positive”.
- Apple’s earlier-on-Thursday announcement regarding the News Partner Program.
- Phil Schiller’s 2011 memo asking “Do we think our 70/30 split will last forever?”.
- Mark Gurman’s latest column, speculating on who might succeed Tim Cook as CEO.
- The Peter Principle — “a concept in management developed by Laurence J. Peter, which observes that people in a hierarchy tend to rise to their ‘maximum level of incompetence’”. (I blew it and said “Pareto Principle” on air, which is an entirely different thing, but also interesting.)
- Another post-show correction: there is one MLB team with a friendly bird mascot. (I mistakenly thought they had been relegated to AAA, and regret the error.)
- Randy Johnson hits a bird with a pitch during a 2001 preseason MLB game.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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321: ‘Just a Standard Bird’, With MG Siegler
August 31, 2021
•117m
MG Siegler returns to the show to talk about last week’s surprise announcement from Apple settling a class action lawsuit filed on behalf of U.S. App Store developers, and the various reactions to it. Also, a bit on App Store payment processing, and some speculation on who might succeed Tim Cook.
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Links:
- Apple’s masterful press release that got them just the headlines they were hoping to get.
- Techmeme’s roundup of Big Press headlines regarding Apple’s settlement proposal for the class action lawsuit regarding the App Store in the U.S.
- Bloomberg got it right: “Apple Settles With App Developers Without Making Major Concessions”.
- Ryan Jones’s excellent Twitter thread that accurately depicts the actual nature of Apple’s settlement proposal.
- Jack Nicas’s column for the NYT: “Why Apple Won Its Legal Settlement With Developers”.
- MG on Apple’s press release: “Thank You, Apple! May We Have Another?”.
- And MG’s follow-up, “Apple Accentuates the Positive”.
- Apple’s earlier-on-Thursday announcement regarding the News Partner Program.
- Phil Schiller’s 2011 memo asking “Do we think our 70/30 split will last forever?”.
- Mark Gurman’s latest column, speculating on who might succeed Tim Cook as CEO.
- The Peter Principle — “a concept in management developed by Laurence J. Peter, which observes that people in a hierarchy tend to rise to their ‘maximum level of incompetence’”. (I blew it and said “Pareto Principle” on air, which is an entirely different thing, but also interesting.)
- Randy Johnson hits a bird with a pitch during a 2001 preseason MLB game.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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