
318: ‘Holes in the Blast Door’, With Matthew Panzarino
The Talk Show With John Gruber
07/22/21
•126m
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Matthew Panzarino returns to the show. Topics include: Apple’s new MagSafe Battery Pack, the Amnesty-International-Led exposé of NSO Group’s state-sponsored phone hacking, Safari 15’s controversial new UI and Apple’s response, and a look back at year one of Apple silicon for Macs. Also: pizza.
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- Battery Packs:
- The Amnesty-International-led exposé of NSO Group’s Pegasus phone-hacking capabilities and abuse:
- Safari 15’s much-criticized new UIs and Apple’s seeming “we’re listening” reaction:
- Miscellaneous:
- Valve’s upcoming Steam Deck, a Switch-inspired handheld gaming PC
- Brian Heater on Steam Deck for TechCrunch
- Moft’s $29 MagSafe credit-card-sized foldable iPhone stand
- Ooni gas pizza ovens
- Una Pizza Napoletana — the heavenly formerly-in-San-Francisco pizza restaurant where every single pie was made by owner Anthony Mangieri
- Una Pizza is now in New Jersey and Mangieri now makes pepperoni pies that sound amazing
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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317: ‘The NOC List’, With Rene Ritchie
June 27, 2021
•118m
Special guest Rene Ritchie returns to the show to talk about the nuances of sideloading, Apple’s antitrust pressures, and a look back at the announcements from WWDC 2021.
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- The NOC List (Mission Impossible).
- Rene’s WWDC interview with Kevin Lynch and Deidre Caldbeck from Apple.
- The Talk Show Remote From WWDC 2021, with Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak.
- Rene on sideloading.
- Yours truly on sideloading.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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319: ‘You Called Him Pixel Mature’, With John Moltz
July 30, 2021
•106m
Special guest: John Moltz. Special topics: Playdate preorders, MagSafe battery packs, iPad keyboard covers, Facebook and NSO Group, Safari 15 betas, and Loki.
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Links:
- Apple’s masterful press release that got them just the headlines they were hoping to get.
- Techmeme’s roundup of Big Press headlines regarding Apple’s settlement proposal for the class action lawsuit regarding the App Store in the U.S.
- Bloomberg got it right: “Apple Settles With App Developers Without Making Major Concessions”.
- Ryan Jones’s excellent Twitter thread that accurately depicts the actual nature of Apple’s settlement proposal.
- Jack Nicas’s column for the NYT: “Why Apple Won Its Legal Settlement With Developers”.
- MG on Apple’s press release: “Thank You, Apple! May We Have Another?”.
- And MG’s follow-up, “Apple Accentuates the Positive”.
- Apple’s earlier-on-Thursday announcement regarding the News Partner Program.
- Phil Schiller’s 2011 memo asking “Do we think our 70/30 split will last forever?”.
- Mark Gurman’s latest column, speculating on who might succeed Tim Cook as CEO.
- The Peter Principle — “a concept in management developed by Laurence J. Peter, which observes that people in a hierarchy tend to rise to their ‘maximum level of incompetence’”. (I blew it and said “Pareto Principle” on air, which is an entirely different thing, but also interesting.)
- Another post-show correction: there is one MLB team with a friendly bird mascot. (I mistakenly thought they had been relegated to AAA, and regret the error.)
- Randy Johnson hits a bird with a pitch during a 2001 preseason MLB game.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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