
315: ‘I Don’t Know How to Read’, With Joanna Stern
The Talk Show With John Gruber
05/29/21
•117m
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Special guest: the one and only Joanna Stern. Topics: new iMacs, Touch ID vs. Face ID, remote controls, surveillance advertising, and people who want to make everything a video call when a good old-fashioned voice call would do.
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Links:
- Function101 Remote Control for Apple TV.
- Robert G. Reeves's tweet thread about getting Twitter ads for the brand of toothpaste his mother uses after spending a week at her house.
- "Apple declined to comment on if this is just an elaborate troll at this point.".
- Joanna's latest: "Stop With the Video Chats Already. Just Make a Voice Call.".
- Joanna Stern Interviews Craig Federighi About ATT and 'Superman'.
- Joanna on AirTags vs. Tile.
- Nicole Nguyen for the WSJ: "Apple’s New iPad Pro vs. MacBook Air".
- Apple Platform Security Guide: "Secure Intent and Connections to the Secure Enclave".
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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314: ‘Obviously Tier One’, With Marco Arment
May 25, 2021
•134m
Marco Arment returns to the show to talk about the new Apple TV remote control. (Also, the new M1 iMacs and iPad Pros.)
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Links:
- Accidental Tech Podcast.
- Casey Liss, who really does do a good job as de facto host of ATP, and to whom I probably owe a beer now.
- Overcast — the app you’re probably using to listen to this show.
- My reviews of the new 24-inch M1 iMac, M1 iPad Pro, and Apple TV remote and the hardware set-top box it optionally comes with.
- Marco’s Ratio coffee maker.
- “Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire” — excellent 1996 video game for Nintendo 64.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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316: Remote From WWDC 2021 With Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak
June 11, 2021
•84m
Special guests Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak join me to discuss the news from WWDC 2021: the all-new multitasking interface in iPadOS 15, on-device Siri, new privacy controls in Safari and Mail, MacOS 12 Monterey, and more.
This episode of The Talk Show is available to watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/-SzbucgATjA.
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- Previous episodes of The Talk Show Live (or Remote) From WWDC: 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016, 2015.
- Apple’s WWDC 2021 keynote and Platforms State of the Union.
- iOS 15
- iPadOS 15
- MacOS 12 Monterey
- WatchOS 8
- Shared Health data
- Privacy
- Developer tools
The audio for this episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton. The video was produced and edited by Sandwich.
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