
302: ‘Camera Beer Belly’, With Nilay Patel
The Talk Show With John Gruber
11/30/20
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Nilay Patel returns to the show and we have nothing to talk about. You know, other than the M1 Macs and entire iPhone 12 lineup.
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Links:
- Decoder — new/relaunched interview podcast hosted by Nilay. (Overcast link.)
- “The Pandemic Work Diary of a Podcasting Tech Editor” — nice feature in the NYT on Nilay’s workday.
- The Verge’s reviews for the M1 MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, and Mac Mini.
- Yours truly’s review of the M1 MacBook Pro.
- Patrick Moorhead’s “last honest man” style review of the M1 MacBook Air for Forbes, which, just one week later, is not aging well.
- The Verge’s reviews for the iPhone 12 Pro Max and iPhone 12 Mini. And from a few weeks prior: the iPhone 12 and 12 Pro.
- Yours truly’s reviews of the iPhone 12/12 Pro and 12 Mini/12 Pro Max.
- “Verizon and AT&T Have Vastly Different Ideas About Phone Cases” — Ashley Carman’s 2018 profile for The Verge of Helena Elicerio, Verizon’s phone case product manager.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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301: ‘A Craptastic Craptacular’, With Joanna Stern
November 23, 2020
•120m
Joanna Stern returns to the show to talk about the new M1 MacBook Air and 13-inch MacBook Pro.
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Links:
- Joanna Stern in the WSJ: “Apple’s M1 MacBook Air and MacBook Pro Review: The Laptop’s Biggest Leap in Years”.
- And on YouTube: “Goodbye, Fan Noise”.
- My review of the M1 MacBook Pro.
- Joanna’s and my joint appearance on CNBC’s Squawk Alley, which started the webcam-gate scandal.
- Joanna’s epic breakdown of the best available USB-C chargers.
- Aukey’s adorable $50 90-watt 3-port charger, and their even smaller $45 65-watt 2-port charger.
- Joanna, back in July: “Quit Chrome. Safari and Edge Are Just Better Browsers for You and Your Computer.”
- Camo — excellent app that lets you use your iPhone or iPad as a Mac webcam.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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303: ‘Half of the Bikini Emoji’, With Matthew Panzarino
December 11, 2020
•121m
Matthew Panzarino joins the show to talk about Apple's new AirPods Max headphones and the future of the Mac on Apple Silicon.
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Links:
- Panzarino: “This Is Not a Review of Apple’s New AirPods Max Headphones”.
- Yours truly: “Heavy Is the Head That Wears the AirPods Max”.
- Panzarino’s M1 MacBook Pro review, with jaw-dropping speed and battery life results from Xcode.
- James Mangold to direct fifth Indiana Jones movie.
- Todd Vaziri on a fun audio Easter egg in Raiders of the Lost Ark.
- Steve Martin’s “autograph” cards.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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