
260: ‘A Clear Eyed Look at Dishwashers’ With John Siracusa
The Talk Show With John Gruber
08/10/19
•143m
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Special guest John Siracusa finally returns to the show. Topics include the Siri voice recording fiasco, Siracusa’s epic Mac OS X reviews, and making good ice.
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Links:
- “Star Wars: The Last Jedi” Holiday Spectacular, With Special Guests Guy English and John Siracusa.
- The Guardian: “Apple Contractors ‘Regularly Hear Confidential Details’ on Siri Recordings”.
- TechCrunch: “Apple Suspends Siri Response Grading in Response to Privacy Concerns”.
- The Verge: “Apple Stops Letting Contractors Listen to Siri Voice Recordings and Will Offer Opt-Out Later”.
- Amazon’s Alexa FAQ.
- Steve Jobs on privacy at the D8 conference in 2010.
- Apple is now cryptographically verifying battery replacements.
- Apple posts ASMR videos to YouTube.
- David Pogue column on software Easter eggs.
- John talks to Merlin Mann about buying a new refrigerator on their podcast, Reconcilable Differences.
- QuarkXPress Easter egg.
- James Thompson’s Easter egg talk.
- Tovolo King Cube ice cube tray.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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259: ‘Start a Bakin’ Timer’ With Marco Arment
July 31, 2019
•107m
Special guest Marco Arment returns to the show. Topics include MacBook Pro rumors, breakfast cereal, Siri frustrations, and more.
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- Jason Snell on the rumored 16-inch MacBook Pro.
- Mr. T breakfast cereal.
- Craig Mod: ‘Fast Software, the Best Software’.
- Rolls MS111 silence switch.
- Bloomberg report on Apple getting into subscription-based original podcasts.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Marco Arment.
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261: ‘Contact Heineken’ With Jim Dalrymple
August 28, 2019
•184m
Special guest Jim Dalrymple returns to the show. Topics include Apple Card and the latest rumors on Apple’s upcoming product announcements.
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- Mark Gurman on Apple’s fall products.
- 2005 iPod Nano that scratched easily.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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