
252: ‘The Dustin Egress Problem’ With Cabel Sasser, Steven Frank, and Greg Maletic From Panic
The Talk Show With John Gruber
05/30/19
•130m
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Special guests Cabel Sasser, Steven Frank, and Greg Maletic join the show to talk about Playdate, Panic’s exciting and surprising new handheld gaming system.
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- Playdate’s fun WebGL-backed website.
- The Playdate media site, with ARKit models for iPhone and iPad.
- Edge Magazine’s cover story on Playdate, written by Jen Simpkins and chock full of gorgeous photography.
- Cabel Sasser’s inspiring talk at XOXO 2013.
- Firewatch.
- Untitled Goose Game.
- Faux-retro ’90s website for Captain Marvel.
- Space Jam’s true retro website, still going.
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251: ‘Parking Meters in a Dirt Lot’ With Merlin Mann
May 14, 2019
•114m
Very special guest Merlin Mann returns to the show. Topics include sleep and sleep-tracking (with Apple Watch), regional fast-casual dining, the nature of podcasting, and, of course, more.
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Links
- Sleep-tracking Apple Watch apps:
- Apple’s list of standard Mac keyboard shortcuts.
- Vox: “How golf explains Donald Trump”.
- Commander-in-Cheat — Rick Reilly’s new book on Trump.
- Gino’s Burgers and Chicken — a fast food chain from the 1970s that served Kentucky Fried Chicken but was not a Kentucky Fried Chicken.
- 1984 NYT story on Massachussetts’s then-new — and still in place — law banning bars and restaurants from offering “Happy Hours”.
- Philadelphia is incinerating half its recycling.
- 99% Invisible episode on where U.S. recycling often went: to China.
- “The Banana Window” — 2011 episode of the old incarnation of The Talk Show where Merlin joined me as co-host while Dan was on paternity leave.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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253: ‘An Italicized “Finally”’ With Rene Ritchie
May 31, 2019
•141m
Special guest Rene Ritchie returns to the show for a look at what we expect — and hope — to see from Apple at WWDC next week.
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Links
- The Macalope: “AirPods Are the Bane of All Existence”.
- On the Recyclability of AirPods
- “Understanding Bitcode for iOS Applications”.
- A few leaked iOS 13 screenshots.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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