
169: ‘A Murder of Eeros’ With Matthew Panzarino
The Talk Show With John Gruber
10/06/16
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Matthew Panzarino returns to the show. Topics include Google’s “Made by Google” hardware announcements (the Pixel phones, Google Wi-Fi routers, their Amazon Echo competitor Google Home), mobile photography, Samsung’s acquisition of Viv, and more.
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Links:
- TechCrunch: “Samsung Acquires Viv, a Next-Gen AI Assistant Built by Creators of Apple’s Siri”.
- Replacement Samsung Galaxy Note 7 phone catches fire on Southwest plane.
- Video of Google’s “Made by Google” event.
- Pixel phone specs.
- The DxO One camera peripheral for iPhone.
- Matthew’s 2012 “Hardware + Software Epiphany” tweet.
- The Here One in-ear “wireless listening system”.
- Steve Jobs meets ESPN president George Bodenheimer. Classic story.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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168: ‘You’ve Got the Nubbin’ With Serenity Caldwell
September 27, 2016
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Serenity Caldwell returns to the show to discuss Apple’s new stuff: the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus, Apple Watch Series 2 (and the semi-new Series 1), iOS 10, MacOS Sierra, and more.
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Links:
- Mat Honan story of getting hacked back in 2012.
- The pain-in-the-ass, don’t-do-it-in-the-wrong-order process of backing up and restoring an Apple Watch.
- iMore: “What You Need to Know About Backing Up Your Apple Watch”.
- Sena cases for iPhone 7. (Serenity mentioned using one.)
- “Who needs a slider?” Example video from Serenity showing how slo-mo video from iPhone 7 can create a smooth tracking product hero shot.
- More slo-mo on iPhone 7.
- Austin Mann’s stunning iPhone 7 camera review in Rwanda.
- Great use of iPhone 7 Plus’s Portrait mode for product photography, by Ayaka Nonaka. This is the “pair of boots” photo.
- My Flickr album of iPhone 7 Plus Portrait mode comparison shots, including this one of a whisky bottle mentioned during the show.
- Serenity’s camera test between iPhone 7 Plus Portrait mode and a Canon DSLR.
- Serenity’s just-released review of Apple Watch Series 2, including a terrific video shot entirely with iPhone 7.
- Noise: iOS piano keyboard app with 3D Touch haptic feedback.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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170: ‘Kicking Dirt on Them While They’re on Fire’ With Ben Thompson
October 16, 2016
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Special guest Ben Thompson returns to the show. Topics include voice control with AirPods, how to get your entire music library onto an iPhone while using iCloud Music Library, Apple Watch durability, the Dash/App Store controversy, the disappointing and frustrating state of Siri and voice-driven AI assistants, Google's new Pixel phones and the strategy behind them, Snap's (née Snapchat) Spectacles (and why they're nothing like Google's ill-fated Glass), and more.
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Links:
- How to download your entire music library to a device using iCloud Music Library.
- 1991 TidBITS story on NowMenus, a classic Mac OS utility.
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- Clipboard history managers for Mac:
- Draft: web app that’s Ben’s preferred writing tool.
- Fluid: longstanding utility that let’s you turn any website into a standalone Mac app.
- Me on Twitter, posting a photo of my wife’s Apple Watch that fell apart coming off the charger. And then cracking wise.
- Me on the the Dash/App Store controversy.
- Phil Stokes on Dropbox’s abuse of admin privileges and Accessibility permissions on MacOS: part 1 and part 2.
- John Hempton of Bronte Capital on Twitter:
- Walt Mossberg: “Why Does Siri Seem So Dumb?”
- Ben Thompson: “Chat and the Consumerization of It”.
- Charlie Warzel, writing for BuzzFeed last year — “Apple’s Junk Drawer Problem” — under the premise that most people replace Apple’s apps on the iPhone with Google’s.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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