
Zelensky Survives Second Oval Office Meeting
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08/19/25
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European leaders raced to Washington to show their support for President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine as he met with President Trump on Monday.
It was their first face-to-face meeting at the White House since their disastrous blowup in the Oval Office in February.
Michael Schwirtz, who covers global intelligence, explains how and why Mr. Zelensky’s approach has changed.
Guest: Michael Schwirtz, the global intelligence correspondent for The New York Times.
Background reading:
- Can Mr. Zelensky trust Mr. Trump? Ukraine’s fate may depend on the answer.
- Mr. Zelensky and other European leaders have learned a thing or two about negotiating with Mr. Trump.
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Republican Town Halls Turned Ugly. One Congressman Kept Doing Them Anyway.
August 18, 2025
•39m
From Iowa to New York, Republican members of Congress have struggled to answer constituents’ tough questions about their party’s agenda, with several town hall meetings turning angry and going viral.
Republican leaders have told lawmakers to stop holding them all together.
Representative Mike Flood of Nebraska has ignored that advice. The congressman speaks about the disappearance of an American political tradition and why he thinks it is worth preserving.
Guest: Representative Mike Flood, Republican of Nebraska
Background reading:
- Representative Flood faced his hometown voters. It wasn’t pretty.
- From March: Republican House members were told to stop holding in-person town halls.
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Why So Many Parents Are Opting Out of Public Schools
August 20, 2025
•29m
Across the country, public schools are facing steep declines in enrollment, while the movement to use public funds for private education grows.
Dana Goldstein, who covers education and families for The New York Times, explains why so many parents are using taxpayer money to privately educate their children — and what this means for American education.
Guest: Dana Goldstein, a reporter covering education and families for The New York Times.
Background reading:
- A decline in the number of children and rise in the number of choices has created a crisis for public schools.
- In July, Congress approved the first national school voucher plan, helping to pay for private education.
For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.
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