
What Makes a Killer Thriller?
The Daily
08/16/26
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The New York Times Book Review recently released its list of the 50 best thrillers of the 21st century.
To put it together, the team asked almost 300 authors and other experts to vote for the best heart-thumping, page-turning, white knuckle reads published since 2000.
In this episode of “The Sunday Daily,” Natalie Kitroeff talks with the Times thrillers columnist, Sarah Lyall, about how the list came together. Then, Natalie speaks with one of the greatest thriller writers of this century — with four books featured on the list — the author Tana French.
On Today’s Episode:
Sarah Lyall writes a monthly thrillers column for The New York Times.
Tana French is the author of many best-selling books, including “In the Woods,” “The Searcher,” “The Likeness” and “The Witch Elm.”
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The 50 Best Thrillers of the 21st Century
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Luigi Mangione’s High-Risk Legal Strategy
August 17
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In the two years since a masked man shot and killed a health care executive, the national spotlight has turned to the primary suspect, Luigi Mangione. The overwhelming evidence has pointed to his guilt, and the question on most minds has been: What might the defense of one of the most famous murder suspects in America look like?
At a hearing on Friday, we got our first glimpse at an answer, one that appears to include a full-throated embrace of his guilt.
Today, Benjamin Weiser, a reporter covering the justice system for The New York Times, and Hurubie Meko, a criminal justice reporter for The Times, discuss the risky defense strategy and why an admission of guilt might be Mr. Mangione’s best bet.
Guests:
- Benjamin Weiser, a reporter covering the justice system for The New York Times.
- Hurubie Meko, a criminal justice reporter for The New York Times.
Background reading: Luigi Mangione pleaded guilty to federal charges, and still faces a state case.
Photo: Pool photo by David Dee Delgado
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