
Two Billionaires’ Big Plan to Shrink Government
The Daily
12/04/24
•28m
About
Comments
Featured In
Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy have called the federal bureaucracy an “existential threat to our republic.” Now, President-elect Donald J. Trump is empowering them to drastically shrink it, by whatever means necessary.
David A. Fahrenthold, an investigative reporter for The New York Times, discusses their plans — and what it would look like if they were actually carried out.
Guest: David A. Fahrenthold, an investigative reporter for The New York Times.
Background reading:
- The so-called Department of Government Efficiency has advantages that past budget cutters did not, but laws and court challenges could still make change slow and difficult.
For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.
Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
Previous Episode

When the President Pardons His Son
December 3, 2024
•28m
President Biden went back on his word by pardoning his son Hunter Biden. His stated rationale for granting the pardon will inevitably muddy the political waters as President-elect Donald J. Trump prepares to take office with plans to use the Justice Department and the F.B.I. to pursue “retribution” against his political adversaries.
Peter Baker, chief White House correspondent, discusses where Mr. Biden’s decision leaves the U.S. justice system.
Guest: Peter Baker, chief White House correspondent for The New York Times.
Background reading:
- Mr. Biden and Mr. Trump now agree on one thing: The Biden Justice Department has been politicized.
- Mr. Biden is facing criticism for absolving his son after insisting he would not.
For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.
Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
Next Episode

The Supreme Court Takes On Transgender Care for Minors
December 5, 2024
•35m
On Wednesday, the Supreme Court heard a major case on the rights of transgender children that could help uphold or dismantle dozens of laws across the country.
Adam Liptak, who covers the Supreme Court for The Times, explains how the questioning played out and how the justices are likely to rule.
Guest: Adam Liptak, who covers the Supreme Court and writes Sidebar, a column on legal developments, for The New York Times.
Background reading:
- The justices heard arguments on Wednesday over whether Tennessee can ban some medical treatments for transgender youth.
- For families of transgender children, Tennessee’s ban forces hard choices.
For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.
Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
If you like this episode you’ll love
Promoted




