Trump’s Clashing Goals: More Housing, Fewer Immigrants
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07/22/26
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To address the United States’ acute housing shortage, Congress recently passed a landmark piece of legislation designed to encourage the construction of new homes.
The problem is that President Trump’s crackdown on immigration has taken aim at the work force required to build those homes.
Ronda Kaysen, who covers housing for The New York Times, explains how the U.S. housing industry became so dependent on immigrant labor.
Guest: Ronda Kaysen, a real estate reporter for The New York Times who covers the intersection of housing and society.
Background reading:
- Where did all the American-born roofers go?
- Here’s what is in the housing bill that just became law.
Photo: Philip Cheung for The New York Times
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The war in Iran has recently escalated in dangerous new ways, drawing in Bahrain, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, as the Trump administration reeled from the Iranian killing of U.S. service members in Jordan.
Eric Schmitt, a national security correspondent for The New York Times, discusses the latest attacks, and how they’ve coincided with a decision by the U.S. military to disclose less about the war.
Guest: Eric Schmitt, a national security correspondent for The New York Times based in Washington.
Background reading:
- The Pentagon has identified two U.S. soldiers who were killed in an Iranian attack in Jordan.
- The Pentagon withheld dozens of U.S. military injuries in the war in Iran.
- Read live updates on the war.
Photo: Salwan Georges for The New York Times
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The United States signed a landmark deal on Wednesday that allows Saudi Arabia to develop a nuclear program. At the same time, President Trump is escalating the war in Iran, a conflict that the White House says aims to destroy the country’s nuclear capabilities.
David E. Sanger, a national security correspondent for The New York Times, explains what Saudi Arabia and the United States are getting out of the deal.
Guest: David E. Sanger, the White House and national security correspondent for The New York Times.
Background reading:
- The United States signed a deal to help Saudi Arabia obtain nuclear power.
- With his latest threats, Mr. Trump has signaled to Iran that he is willing to escalate.
Photo: Kenny Holston/The New York Times
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