Trump Rants: ‘Let Them Go Back to Where They Came From’

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12/04/25

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President Trump on Tuesday delivered blatantly xenophobic public remarks, which included attacking Somali immigrants in Minnesota and calling them “garbage.”

Ernesto Londoño, a reporter based in Minnesota, explains how Somalis became the president’s latest target in his effort to reshape America’s relationship to its immigrant communities.

Guest: Ernesto Londoño, a reporter for The New York Times based in Minnesota.

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Mr. Trump called Somalis “garbage” that he doesn’t want in the country.
A new ICE operation is said to target Somali migrants in Minneapolis and St. Paul, Minn.
Here’s how fraud swamped Minnesota’s social services system on Gov. Tim Walz’s watch.

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Guest: Charlie Savage, who covers national security and legal policy for The New York Times.

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