Trump 2.0: Group Chats and a New Spat
The Daily
03/28/25
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What does the continuing fallout from the Signal text security breach tell us about President Trump’s cabinet’s approach to blame and accountability?
The Times journalists Michael Barbaro, Eric Schmitt, Julian E. Barnes and Maggie Haberman sit down to make sense of the latest week.
Guest:
- Eric Schmitt, a national security correspondent for The New York Times based in Washington.
- Julian E. Barnes, a reporter covering the U.S. intelligence agencies and international security matters for The New York Times.
- Maggie Haberman, a White House correspondent for The New York Times.
Background reading:
- Analysis: President Trump takes government secrecy seriously. But only when it suits him.
- Intelligence officials faced a fresh round of questions about the Signal leak.
- A disregard for the rules trickles down from Mr. Trump to his aides.
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Guest: Julian E. Barnes, a reporter covering the U.S. intelligence agencies and international security matters for The New York Times.
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- Inside the 24-hour scramble among top national security officials over the Kennedy documents.
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