
'The Interview': Chloé Zhao Is Yearning to Know How to Love
The Daily
01/24/26
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The “Hamnet” director on trying to overcome her deepest fears — and open her heart.
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Trump’s Investigator Breaks His Silence
January 23
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Three years after his appointment as special counsel, Jack Smith finally delivered the legal argument against President Trump on Thursday that he was never allowed to make in court.
Glenn Thrush, who reports on the Justice Department, explains what Mr. Smith told Congress and why his message is likely to make him Mr. Trump’s next target.
Guest: Glenn Thrush, who reports on the Justice Department for The New York Times.
Background reading:
- In his testimony, Jack Smith defended the decision to prosecute Mr. Trump.
- Here are four takeaways from what he said to a House committee.
Photo: Kenny Holston/The New York Times
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We Underestimated the Neanderthal
January 25
•32m
Pop culture has not been kind to the Neanderthal. In books, movies and even TV commercials, the species is portrayed as rough and mindless, a brutish type that was rightly supplanted by our Homo sapiens ancestors.
But even 40,000 years after the last Neanderthals walked the earth, we continue to make discoveries that challenge that portrayal. New research suggests Neanderthals might have been less primitive — and a lot more like modern humans — than we might have thought.
The Times science reporters Carl Zimmer and Franz Lidz discuss recent discoveries about Neanderthals, and what those discoveries can tell us about the origins of humanity.
On Today’s Episode:
Carl Zimmer writes the Origins column and covers news about science for The Times.
Franz Lidz writes about archaeology for The Times.
Background Reading:
Morning Person? You Might Have Neanderthal Genes to Thank.
What Makes Your Brain Different From a Neanderthal’s?
Photo: Frank Franklin II/Associated Press
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