
'The Interview': 3 Senators Who Quit on Why Congress Won’t Stand Up to Trump
The Daily
12/13/25
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Trump’s Plan to Reorder the World
December 12, 2025
•35m
President Trump has overseen an aggressive foreign policy, including harsh words about Europe and a lethal military campaign in the Caribbean.
Last week, the White House unveiled its new national security strategy, which made Mr. Trump’s true goals clear and alarmed countries around the world.
David E. Sanger, who covers the White House and national security for The New York Times, explains what the strategy is and how it may change America’s global relationships for good.
Guest: David E. Sanger, a White House and national security correspondent for The New York Times.
Background reading:
- Mr. Trump’s security strategy focuses on profit, not on spreading democracy.
- The policy document formalizes Mr. Trump’s long-held contempt for Europe’s leaders.
Photo: Ricardo Arduengo/Reuters
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Sunday Special: The Best Music of 2025
December 14, 2025
•55m
As 2025 comes to an end, The Sunday Special is looking back on the year in culture.
This week, we’re listening to the songs and albums that defined the year, for better or worse. Gilbert Cruz is joined by Caryn Ganz and Lindsay Zoladz from The Times’s pop music desk to discuss some of the biggest and best releases of 2025.
Albums and songs mentioned in this episode:
Bad Bunny, “Debí Tirar Más Fotos”
Lady Gaga, “Mayhem”
Justin Bieber, “Daisies”
Chappell Roan, “The Giver” and “The Subway”
Sabrina Carpenter, “Manchild”
Doechii, “Alligator Bites Never Heal”
Taylor Swift, “The Life of a Showgirl”
Morgan Wallen, “I’m the Problem”
Ghost, “Skeletá”
Dijon, “Baby”
Geese, “Getting Killed”
Water From Your Eyes, “It’s a Beautiful Place”
PinkPantheress, “Fancy That”
Lily Allen, “Tennis”
Ella Langley, “Choosin’ Texas”
Sleigh Bells, “Bunky Becky Birthday Boy”
Hayley Williams, “Ego Death at a Bachelorette Party”
Turnstile, “Never Enough”
On Today’s Episode
Caryn Ganz is the pop music editor at The Times.
Lindsay Zoladz is a pop music critic at The Times and the writer of The Amplifier newsletter.
Additional Reading
Photo Illustration by The New York Times; From left, Angela Weiss/AFP — Getty Images (Lady Gaga); OK McCausland for The New York Times (Geese); Erika Santelices/Reuters (Bad Bunny); Helle Arensbak/AFP -- Getty Images, via Ritzau Scanpix (PinkPantheress)
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