
The Government Shutdown Fight Over Immigration
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02/13/26
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The U.S. government this weekend is expected to find itself in yet another shutdown. This time, it is only one agency shutting down: the Department of Homeland Security.
Michael Gold, a congressional reporter for The New York Times, explains why Democrats are once again picking a fight over funding with President Trump.
Guest: Michael Gold, a congressional correspondent for The New York Times, based in Washington.
Background reading:
- Senate Democrats refused to move ahead with a spending bill needed to keep the Department of Homeland Security running.
- Video: How Democrats are trying to rein in ICE.
Photo: Elizabeth Frantz for The New York Times
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The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations
February 12
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The administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency is expected on Thursday to repeal a scientific finding that requires the federal government to fight global warming. The move is the latest push by the Trump administration to wipe out climate regulations in the United States.
Lisa Friedman, a New York Times reporter who covers climate policy, has spent the past few weeks piecing together the inside story of how a small group of activists turned its goal of rolling back environmental protections into reality.
Guest: Lisa Friedman, a reporter covering climate policy and politics at The New York Times.
Background reading:
- President Trump’s allies are near a “total victory” in wiping out a central U.S. climate regulation.
- Four Trump allies have been a driving force behind the administration’s efforts to rollback the rule.
Photo: Evelyn Hockstein/Reuters
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