Project 2025’s Other Project
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07/16/25
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During a congressional hearing yesterday, Republican lawmakers accused university leaders of failing to do enough to combat antisemitism on their campuses. That’s a claim that the university officials strongly rejected.
The hearing was the latest attempt by Republicans to use what they see as the growing threat against Jews to their political advantage. And it reflects a plan that was first laid out by the Heritage Foundation, the same conservative think tank that produced Project 2025.
That plan, known as Project Esther, may have once seemed far-fetched. Katie J.M. Baker explains how it has become a reality.
Guest: Katie J.M. Baker, a national investigative correspondent for The New York Times.
Background reading:
- Even before President Trump was re-elected, the Heritage Foundation, best known for Project 2025, set out to destroy pro-Palestinian activism in the United States.
- University leaders rejected Republican attacks, saying they were working to protect Jewish students but also free speech on their campuses.
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Did the Texas Floods Have to Be This Deadly?
July 15, 2025
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A little over a week after the devastating floods in Central Texas, the death toll has reached more than 130 people — and the search for the missing continues.
In the aftermath of the disaster, there have been mounting questions about how local officials handled the critical hours before and after the storm. Today, we look at the missed opportunities that may have contributed to the growing tragedy — and whether anything more could have been done to save lives.
Guest: Christopher Flavelle, a Times reporter covering how President Trump is transforming the local government..
Background reading:
- Kerr County, where most of the deaths occurred, failed to secure a warning system, even as local officials remained aware of the risks and as billions of dollars were available for similar projects.
- Years before the floods, the Federal Emergency Management Agency had approved the removal of many Camp Mystic buildings from flood zones, records show.
- Eight-year-olds at camp, families in their R.V.s: These were some of the lives lost to the Texas floods.
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The Most Toxic Relationship in Washington
July 17, 2025
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During an Oval Office meeting with congressional Republicans a few days ago, President Trump showed off the draft of a letter that would fire Jerome H. Powell, the chair of the Federal Reserve.
It’s the latest chapter in a dysfunctional relationship that has major implications for the global economy.
Guest: Colby Smith, who covers the Federal Reserve and the U.S. economy for The Times.
Background reading:
- President Trump waved a copy of a draft letter firing Jerome H. Powell at a meeting in the Oval Office with House Republicans.
- Can Trump fire Powell? It’s likely that he lacks a case, legal experts say.
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