
On the Ballot: An Immigration System Most Americans Never Wanted
The Daily
10/29/24
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If Donald J. Trump wins next week’s election, it will be in large part because voters embraced his message that the U.S. immigration system is broken.
David Leonhardt, a senior writer at The New York Times, tells the surprising story of how that system came to be.
Guest: David Leonhardt, a senior writer at The New York Times who runs The Morning.
Background reading:
- Whoever wins the election, seeking asylum in the United States may never be the same.
- For people fleeing war, the U.S. immigration fight has real-life consequences.
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The Trump Campaign’s Big Gamble
October 28, 2024
•37m
Warning: this episode contains strong language.
The presidential campaign is in its final week and one thing remains true: the election is probably going to come down to a handful of voters in a swing states.
Jessica Cheung, a producer for “The Daily,” and Jonathan Swan, a reporter covering politics for The Times, take us inside Donald Trump’s unorthodox campaign to win over those voters.
Guest:
- Jessica Cheung, a senior producer of “The Daily.”
- Jonathan Swan, a reporter covering politics and Donald Trump’s presidential campaign for The New York Times.
Background reading:
- In Arizona, many Latino families are divided about the 2024 election.
- The electorate has rarely seemed so evenly divided. The latest New York Times/Siena College poll found Harris and Trump tied at 48 to 48 percent.
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Six Days Left: Closing Arguments, Racist Jokes and Burning Ballots
October 30, 2024
•36m
In the final week of the race for president, Donald J. Trump’s big rally in New York appeared to backfire, while Kamala Harris’s closing message cast her as a unifier. Fears about election interference also resurfaced after arsonists burned ballots in three states.
The Times journalists Michael Barbaro, Lisa Lerer, Shane Goldmacher and Astead Herndon try to make sense of it all.
Guest:
- Lisa Lerer, a national political correspondent for The New York Times.
- Shane Goldmacher, a national political correspondent for The New York Times.
- Astead W. Herndon, a national politics reporter and the host of the politics podcast “The Run-Up.”
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- Trump at the Garden: A closing carnival of grievances, misogyny and racism.
- Michelle Obama made a searing appeal to men: “Take our lives seriously.”
- Investigators have identified a “suspect vehicle” in the ballot drop box fires in the Pacific Northwest.
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