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More Money Was Supposed to Help Poor Kids. So Why Didn’t It?

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08/06/25

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For many, the logic seemed unassailable: Giving poor families money would measurably improve the lives of their children. And so a few years ago, social scientists set out to test whether that assumption was right.

The results of the experiment have shocked them.
Guest: Jason DeParle, a Times reporter who covers poverty in the United States.

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