
How Close Are We to Another Pandemic?
The Daily
02/13/25
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An outbreak of bird flu has been tearing through the nation’s dairy farms and infecting more and more people.
Now there are troubling signs that the United States may be closer to another pandemic, even as President Trump dismantles the country’s public health system.
Apoorva Mandavilli, who covers science and global health for The Times, explains how the virus has changed and why our government might be ill-equipped to respond.
Guest: Apoorva Mandavilli, a science and global health reporter at The New York Times.
Background reading:
- Could the bird flu become airborne?
- Egg prices are high. They’re likely to go higher.
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February 12, 2025
•26m
As President Trump issues executive orders that encroach on the powers of Congress — and in some cases fly in the face of established law — a debate has begun about whether he’s merely testing the boundaries of his power or triggering a full-blown constitutional crisis.
Adam Liptak, who covers the Supreme Court for The Times, walks us through the debate.
Guests: Adam Liptak, who covers the Supreme Court and writes Sidebar, a column on legal developments, for The New York Times.
Background reading:
- President Trump’s actions have created a constitutional crisis, scholars say.
- Sidebar: Is Trump’s plan to end birthright citizenship “Dred Scott II”?
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February 14, 2025
•35m
Over the past week, President Donald J. Trump dramatically ceded the stage to Elon Musk in the Oval Office, turned the Democratic mayor of New York City into a political pawn and ensured that Vladimir Putin begins peace talks with Ukraine on Russia’s terms.
The Times journalists Michael Barbaro, Maggie Haberman, David E. Sanger and Zolan Kanno-Youngs sit down and discuss the latest week in the Trump administration.
Guests:
- Maggie Haberman, a White House correspondent for The New York Times.
- David E. Sanger, the White House and National Security Correspondent for The New York Times.
- Zolan Kanno-Youngs, a White House correspondent for The New York Times.
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- Mr. Trump says his call with Mr. Putin is the beginningis beginning of the Ukraine peace negotiations.
- How the Jjustice Ddepartmentt. helped sink its own case against Eric Adams.
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