Gavin Newsom on the L.A. Protests, Trump’s Response and Why It’s a Defining Moment for Democracy
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06/12/25
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California’s governor, Gavin Newsom, says that President Trump’s decision to send federal troops into Los Angeles is a “brazen abuse of power” and a defining moment for American democracy.
Governor Newsom sits down with Michael Barbaro to discuss Mr. Trump, illegal immigration, the protests and how he thinks the standoff in Los Angeles will end.
Guest: Gavin Newsom, the governor of California
Background reading:
- President Trump has expanded domestic use of the armed forces, testing the limits on involving troops at protests and the border.
- Gov. Gavin Newsom of California called on Americans to stand up to Mr. Trump in a nationally televised address.
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June 11, 2025
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This week’s protests and clashes in California are the biggest flare-up yet over President Trump’s immigration enforcement.
They follow months of escalating raids and rhetoric as the administration struggles to fulfill the president’s big promises for mass deportations.
Hamed Aleaziz, who covers immigration policy for The Times, goes inside one ICE operation and explains why the tensions over Mr. Trump’s aggressive approach may only get worse.
Guest: Hamed Aleaziz, who covers the Department of Homeland Security and immigration policy in the United States for The New York Times.
Background reading:
- Immigration agents have begun targeting workplaces as Mr. Trump’s immigration crackdown widens.
- Under pressure from the White House, ICE is seeking new ways to ramp up arrests.
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Tomorrow night, for the first time in decades, the United States military will put its unrivaled might on display in a parade through downtown Washington D.C.
Helene Cooper, who covers national security for The Times, explains how President Trump overcame years of opposition from inside the military to get the parade and why its timing has become so fraught.
David E. Sanger, who covers the White House and national security, gives an update on Israel’s attack on Iran and what it is likely to mean for the region.
Guest:
- Helene Cooper, who covers national security issues for The New York Times.
- David E. Sanger, the White House and National Security Correspondent for The New York Times.
Background reading:
- Mr. Trump’s military parade marches into a political maelstrom as troops have deployed to L.A.
- Israel targeted Iran’s nuclear program in major attack.
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