Family Separation 2.0: An Update
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12/30/25
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In his first 100 days in office this term, President Trump struggled to fulfill his promise to carry out mass deportations, a reality that has prompted his administration to change its strategy.
Rather than putting its focus on migrants with a criminal record, or those who recently crossed the border, the White House is increasingly seeking to deport those who came to the United States decades ago and who have established a life, career and family in America.
Jessica Cheung, a producer on “The Daily,” tells the story of one such migrant through the eyes of his daughter.
Guest: Jessica Cheung, a senior producer at The New York Times, working on “The Daily.”
Background reading:
- Listen to the original version of the episode here.
- The Trump administration has been frustrated over the pace of deportations.
- Inside a chaotic U.S. deportation flight to Brazil.
Photo: Jose Luis Gonzalez/Reuters
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This week, The Daily is revisiting some of our favorite episodes of the year and checking in on what has happened in the time since.
President Trump has used executive orders to wage war on law firms, specifically targeting those whose lawyers have investigated or sued him, or represented his enemies in court.
Michael Barbaro speaks to Thomas Sipp, a lawyer who chose to quit after his firm, Skadden, negotiated a deal to placate the president.
Guest: Thomas Sipp, a lawyer who left his firm after it negotiated a deal with Mr. Trump.
Background reading:
- Listen to the original version of the episode here.
- Read about how Paul Weiss, a major democratic law firm, ended up bowing to Mr. Trump.
- Ever since the elite law firms Skadden and Paul Weiss reached deals with the Trump administration, top partners have closed ranks in support of the agreements.
Photo: Graham Dickie/The New York Times
For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.
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She Fell in Love With ChatGPT: An Update
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This week, The Daily is revisiting some of our favorite episodes of the year and checking in on what has happened in the time since.
Warning: This episode discusses sexual themes.
Artificial intelligence has changed how millions of people write emails, conduct research and seek advice.
Kashmir Hill, who covers technology and privacy for The New York Times, tells the story of a woman whose relationship with a chatbot when much further than that.
Guest: Kashmir Hill, a features writer on the business desk at The New York Times, covering technology and privacy.
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Photo: Helen Orr for The New York Times
For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.
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