
A Consequential Supreme Court Term Begins With a Conversion Therapy Case
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10/09/25
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In one of the first cases of the Supreme Court’s new term, the justices considered whether to strike down a ban on conversion therapy, the contentious practice that aims to change a young person’s sexual orientation.
Ann E. Marimow, Supreme Court correspondent for The New York Times, talks us through the case.
Guest: Ann E. Marimow, who covers the Supreme Court for The New York Times from Washington.
Background reading:
- Read the main points of the conversion therapy argument at the Supreme Court.
- The case considering the Colorado law will have implications for more than 20 states with similar bans.
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Trump Claims ‘Rebellion’ in American Cities
October 8, 2025
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Over the past week, ICE and border patrol agents have clashed with Chicago residents, and federal guard troops arriving in the city might inflame tensions further.
Julie Bosman, Chicago bureau chief for The Times, and Mattathias Schwartz describe the situation on the ground and explain how the city fits into a broader political fight.
Guest:
- Julie Bosman, the Chicago bureau chief for The New York Times.
- Mattathias Schwartz, who has reported on the tension between President Trump and the courts.
Background reading:
- Drones, helicopters, hundreds of arrests: President Trump’s immigration crackdown in Chicago so far.
- A judge blocked a National Guard deployment in Oregon as Mr. Trump expands his targets.
Photo: Octavio Jones/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
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How Trump Got Israel and Hamas to a Truce
October 10, 2025
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On Thursday, a potentially historic agreement between Israel and Hamas began to take shape. The deal, which was brokered by President Trump, secures the exchange of all remaining Israeli hostages for Palestinian prisoners.
Leaders on both sides, and Mr. Trump himself, signaled that this was a decisive step toward the end of the two-year war in Gaza.
Mark Mazzetti, who covers national security for The New York Times, discusses the deal making that got us to this point and whether it really will bring peace.
Guest: Mark Mazzetti, an investigative reporter for The New York Times in Washington, D.C., who focuses on national security.
Background reading:
- Live updates: Israel approved a Gaza deal that would free hostages and prisoners.
- Here is what we know about the agreement between Israel and Hamas.
Photo: Saher Alghorra for The New York Times; David Guttenfelder/The New York Times
For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.
Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.
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