
12 Days to Go: French Fries and Fascism
The Daily
10/24/24
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With less than two weeks to go in the race for the presidency, Donald Trump’s longest-serving White House chief of staff is warning that he met the definition of a fascist, Kamala Harris is seizing on the message of Mr. Trump as a threat to democracy and Mr. Trump himself is relying on viral stunts and vulgarity to break through to undecided voters.
The Times journalists Michael Barbaro, Michael S. Schmidt, Lisa Lerer, Reid J. Epstein and Nate Cohn try to make sense of it all.
Guests:
- Michael S. Schmidt, an investigative reporter for The New York Times, covering Washington
- Lisa Lerer, a national political correspondent for The New York Times.
- Reid J. Epstein, a New York Times reporter covering politics.
- Nate Cohn, the chief political analyst for The New York Times.
Background reading:
- John Kelly, the Trump White House’s longest-serving chief of staff, said that he believed that Donald Trump met the definition of a fascist.
- Harris called Mr. Trump’s reported remarks on Hitler and Nazis “deeply troubling.”
- A look at the polls: A slight shift toward Mr. Trump but still no clear favorite.
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The Gender Election
October 23, 2024
•33m
A stark new gender divide has formed among the country’s youngest voters. Young men have drifted toward Donald Trump, while young women are surging toward Kamala Harris.
As a result, men and women under 30, once similar in their politics, are now farther apart than any other generation of voters.
Claire Cain Miller, a reporter who covers gender for The New York Times, discusses a divide that is defining this election.
Guest: Claire Cain Miller, a reporter for The New York Times covering gender, families and education.
Background reading:
- How the last eight years made young women more liberal.
- Many Gen Z men feel left behind. Some see Trump as an answer.
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The United States of Pennsylvania
October 25, 2024
•37m
Throughout this election, one state has been at the center of every imaginable path to victory: Pennsylvania. Both candidates have campaigned there relentlessly, and both parties have spent more money there than in any other state.
Campbell Robertson, who has been reporting from Pennsylvania, discusses the shift that is reshaping the map in Pennsylvania.
Guest: Campbell Robertson, a reporter for the National desk at The New York Times.
Background reading:
- Inside the battle for America’s most consequential battleground state.
- Small-town Pennsylvania is changing, and Democrats see opportunity.
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