
James Frankie Thomas on his homoerotic, post-9/11 campus novel, IDLEWILD
Teen People
10/29/23
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As a teen, James Frankie Thomas modelled a prom dress and smooch-proof makeup in a 2004 issue of TEEN PEOPLE magazine. Now, he's the author of a compelling novel, IDLEWILD, published by The Overlook Press. James spoke with me about crafting this novel at the Iowa Writers' Workshop, and how he navigated the highs and lows of getting a book into the world. Plus: find out why James jokes that he and Elliot Page are like "two ships in the night", and why it's hard to read (and write) about big events like 9/11 and the COVID-19 pandemic. Podcast notes: James' book list: The Family Chao, by Lan Samantha Chang Eighty-sixed, by David B. Feinberg (not to be confused with 86'd, by Dan Fante) A Dream of a Woman, by Casey Plett Detransition, Baby, by Torrey Peters Darryl, by Jackie Ess Nevada, by Imogen Binnie I'm Supposed to Protect You from All This: A Memoir, by Nadja Spiegelman All This Could Be Different, by Sarah Thankam Mathews This Other Eden, by Paul Harding Pageboy: A Memoir, by Elliot Page Music: Franz Joseph Haydn, 'The Heavens Are Telling' (The Creation), St. Matthew's Choir, 2010. Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons. Frédéric Chopin, ‘Berceuse Op. 57’, Christine Hartley-Troskie. CC BY 2.5 (creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5), via Wikimedia Commons. Hear my first interview with James: www.soundcloud.com/teenpeoplepod/frankie Thanks to Stephanie Palumbo, Christian Westermann, and Andrew Gibeley at Abrams Books for sending me a review copy of IDLEWILD and securing permissions to excerpt IDLEWILD in this episode! Buy IDLEWILD here: www.abramsbooks.com/product/idlewil..._9781419769146/. Like this episode? Please leave a rating or review! Find James on Twitter at james_f_thomas and online at www.jamesfrankiethomas.com. Find me on Twitter and Instagram at TeenPeoplePod and online at www.annasoper.ca. Advocacy resources related to banned and challenged books from the American Library Association and Ontario Library Association: www.ala.org/advocacy/bbooks www.freedomtoread.ca Teen People is recorded in Kingston/Katarokwi, the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe, Haudenosaunee and the Huron-Wendat.
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When Teen People magazine sent Nadia Ahmad on a shopping spree in 1998, she didn't feel cool enough to model makeup! Plus, she had just started wearing a hijab, and the 18-year-old wasn't sure how to reconcile her femininity within the norms of a teen magazine. Today, Nadia is an Associate Professor of Law at Barry University in Florida. She completed her law degree at the University of Florida; where she served as executive editor of the Florida Journal of International Law, and wrote about women’s property rights in post-partition South Asia. You’ll hear about her shopping trip in this episode and, of course, what she’s up to now, 25 years later. Time stamps: 00:01 Random fighter jet flyby 05:45 "I remember growing up and hearing the sound of the newspaper hit the driveway, and being really excited..." 07:56 "I felt I wasn't cool enough to write about makeup!" 10:04 Nadia describes her shopping spree for Teen People, where she bought products from Lancôme, Kiehl's and The Body Shop. 12:30 "You'll find more Muslim women in the malls than you will in the mosque." 16:31 Nadia began to wear a hijab to honour her grandmother 17:50 - 23:18 Hijab as a political symbol; a "contra-modern" form of feminism 27:20 Working as a freelance journalist 28:34 Nadia shifts from journalism to law 30:33 Nadia's Berkeley landlord was Lakireddy Bali Reddy, who was later convicted of human trafficking and sex offences 35:02 Nadia was interviewed for a news program but YouTubers called her out for *checks notes* wearing lipstick during her interview 36:08 Meghan and Harry's NYC car chase and whether Meghan was *checks notes* smiling in the paparazzi photos 38:06 The idea of going to school and teaching is so simple: but it's both contested and sad, and Nadia feels like she has to build armour to get through 38:29 "It would be very hard for me to even exist in certain places of the world" 39:00 Straight to the Comments podcast trailer 40:16 Kudos to podcast maven Arielle Nissenblatt 40:22 We talk about Nadia's PhD research on climate change and environmental racism, especially in relation to the recent Canadian wildfires and US Southwest heatwaves 43:47 Nadia wrote about 21 Savage and his immigration detention 45:46 Nadia is critical of the American Bar Association and their stance on mass incarceration 48:50 Nadia speaks about prison abolition 50:10 "My kids don't even know about 9/11" 51:13 Zayn from One Direction normalized "Muslimness" for Gen Z 52:33 Nadia reflects on the role her grandmother played in her life 54:33 What advice would Nadia give her teenage self today? Podcast notes: Nadia is friends with a previous guest, Amar Shah, who also appeared in the same Teen People feature. Make sure you listen to his episode, too! And have a listen to my interview with Alisha Fernandez Miranda, who met Amar on the Teen People News Team. Find me on Twitter and Instagram [at]TeenPeoplePod! Music: Relaxed Vlog by Ashot-Danielyan-Composer on Pixabay Teen People is recorded in Kingston/Katarokwi, the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe, Haudenosaunee and the Huron-Wendat.
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Resi Ibañez is a poet, public historian, and community organizer in Lowell, Massachusetts. We connected on Instagram, when they sent me a DM asking if I could track down a TEEN PEOPLE article they remembered reading in the mid-2000s. With a few keywords and a rough idea of the timing, I searched a periodicals database I use to find guests for this podcast. I found three possible articles for Resi, and it turns out that one of these three is probably the article they remembered reading as a teenager! The article is an "it-happened-to-me" kind of story; a staple of the teen magazine genre. It featured a teenager who had come out to her friends and family. For a few reasons (which we explore in this interview), the article resonated with Resi. Resi is now working on a book-length project about LGBTQ icons of their young adult years. We spoke about this project and how the TEEN PEOPLE article influenced them, and also about their mother's powerful legacy. Podcast notes: Find me online at www.annasoper.ca and on Twitter and Instagram at TeenPeoplePod. ................ Sounds and music: The Sound of dial-up Internet by wtermini on Pixabay Spirit Blossom by RomanBelov on Pixabay ................ Teen People is recorded in Kingston/Katarokwi, the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe, Haudenosaunee and the Huron-Wendat.
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