Testing Better: Breaking Down E2E tests with Bas Dijkstra
Quality Bits
03/19/24
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Automated E2E (end-to-end) tests frequently are the first thing companies introduce trying to reduce the efforts of manual testing: "There's this big manual testing regression suite, so why don't we automate it? Right? ... Right?"
Well, Bas Dijkstra thinks otherwise. In this episode, we'll talk about automating the right things instead, and, why E2E tests are not always the best idea. You'll hear about test models, test ownership, and where to start when you want to learn more about automation in a bit less common way than most of testing courses recommend.
Find Bas on:
- His website: https://www.ontestautomation.com/
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/basdijkstra/
Mentions and resources:
- Bas' article "Breaking down your E2E tests - an example": https://www.ontestautomation.com/breaking-down-your-e2e-tests-an-example/
- Other recommendations by Bas:
- Article "Proving E2E Tests are a Scam" by Elliot Murray: https://elliottmurray.medium.com/proving-e2e-tests-are-a-scam-21d39e88913
- How to grow in automation:
- Bas' learning path suggestion: https://huddle.eurostarsoftwaretesting.com/resources/test-automation/a-test-automation-learning-path/
- "Quality Engineer Learning Roadmap" by Blake Norrish: https://medium.com/slalom-build/quality-engineer-learning-roadmap-fddfcb77409e
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Modern Testing with Alan Page
March 5, 2024
•44m
More and more software delivery teams embrace the whole team quality approach. Where does testing fit into that? Modern testing principles are there to help to understand what the industry is moving towards.
In this episode, Lina talks to Alan Page - one of the creators of modern testing principles. He's an avid blogger who has quite a few opinions on better software delivery. Tune into this episode to learn more about how modern testing principles can help to embrace the whole team quality approach, and more.
Find Alan on:
- His website: https://angryweasel.com/blog/
- Substack: https://substack.com/@angryweasel
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/a-l-a-n/
Mentions and resources:
- Modern Testing: https://www.moderntesting.org/
- Alan's article "Don't blame me": https://angryweasel.substack.com/p/dont-blame-me
- Books 📚
- "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" by Robert Pirsig
- "Accelerate: The Science Behind Devops" by Nicole Forsgren et al
- "The Lean Startup" by Eric Ries
- "Deming's Journey to Profound Knowledge" by John Willis
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Continuous Learning in a Busy World with Marie Cruz
April 2, 2024
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Learning is essential, but... It's easy to fall into a learning fatigue. It can feel like one more thing in our already overflowing to-do list. To make matters more challenging, the number of online resources to learn from is growing daily.
Marie Cruz is a Senior Developer Advocate: her job is to learn and share what she has learned. In this episode, Lina talks to Marie about creating the habit of continuous learning in this busy world. You'll get a chance to learn from some of the best Marie's tips and resources on approaching your learning journeys better.
Find Marie on:
- Her website: https://www.testingwithmarie.com/
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariedesireecruz/
- X: https://twitter.com/mcruzdrake
Mentions and resources:
- Adobo and Avocados live stream Marie does with Nicole (our previous guest, too, check out listening recommendations below): https://www.youtube.com/@adoboandavocados
- Test Automation University: https://testautomationu.applitools.com/
- Ministry of Testing 30 days challenges:
- Books 📚:
- "Atomic Habits" by James Clear
- "The Compound Effect" by Darren Hardy
- "Mindset" by Carol S. Dweck
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Learning Culture, Collaboration, and Experiments with Andrei Bechet https://www.buzzsprout.com/2037134/14182594
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https://www.buzzsprout.com/2037134/13909242
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