
Beyond Testers: Rethinking Quality in Software Development with Elisabeth Hendrickson
Quality Bits
01/09/24
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Does a separate QA department help or hurdle the company's road towards quality? What about people having titles with "quality" in it: does it aid to drive change in the company or the opposite? Can there be a high-quality product without dedicated testers?
In this episode of Quality Bits, Lina talks to the author of "Explore it!" Elisabeth Hendrickson. They debunk many myths of what a high-quality product development and testing actually is. Tune in to hear more about why testers may be on a verge of a role revolution, the power of a whole team testing approach, and so much more.
Find Elisabeth on:
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/testobsessed/
- Curious Duck website: https://curiousduck.io/
- Mastodon: https://mastodon.social/@testobsessed@ruby.social
Mentions and resources:
- Books 📚:
- Elisabeth Hendrickson "Explore it!"
- Elisabeth's article "Better Testing, Worse Quality": https://web.archive.org/web/20220417112509/https://testobsessed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/btwq.pdf
If you liked this episode, you may as well enjoy this past episode of Quality Bits:
Removing QA Column, Driving Change and Nurturing Fun in Teams with Finn Lorbeer https://www.buzzsprout.com/2037134/11462360
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- Website: https://qualitybits.tech/
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Learning Culture, Collaboration, and Experiments with Andrei Bechet
December 26, 2023
•44m
In this episode of the Quality Bits podcast, Lina interviews Andrei Bechet, a Senior Software Engineer at Personio. You will learn about experiments, driving change, and the power of learning cultures with Andrei.
You'll also hear why chasing titles isn't the key to career growth - and what to do instead. Tune in to learn the secrets of collaboration, self-reflection, and finding the right mentors for your journey.
Find Andrei on:
Mentions and resources:
- Simon Sinek's podcast: https://simonsinek.com/podcast/
- Steve Upton's talk on Experiments at TestCon 2023: https://youtu.be/fl2USB1LUDQ?feature=shared
- SoCraTes: https://www.socrates-conference.de/home
- Books 📚:
- Simon Sinek "Start With Why"
- Daniel Pink "Drive"
- Daniel Kahneman "Thinking, Fast and Slow"
If you liked this episode, you may as well enjoy this past episode of Quality Bits:
Quality, Cynefin and bugs with Steve Upton https://www.buzzsprout.com/2037134/11248422
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- Mastodon: https://mastodon.social/@linazubyte
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/buggylina
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/linazubyte/
- Website: https://qualitybits.tech/
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If you like this podcast and would like to support its making, feel free to buy me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/linazubyteThank you for listening! ✨
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DevOps Ideology & Testing in DevOps with Jani Haapala
January 23, 2024
•34m
What is DevOps? Is it just continuous releases and speed? How do we test in teams embracing DevOps?
Jani Haapala is a DevOps Architect with a Quality Consultant title. In this episode, Lina talks to Jani about that fluffy word of "DevOps", the misconceptions about it, and testing in DevOps. You'll learn more about the concept, get some stories on what good quality there looks like, and gather further resources to deepen your knowledge.
Find Jani on:
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janihaapala/
Mentions and resources:
- Dan Ashby's "Continuous Testing in DevOps" article: https://danashby.co.uk/2016/10/19/continuous-testing-in-devops/
- Goldratt's Theory of Constraints: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_constraints
- DevOps website: https://devops.com/
- The New Stack: https://thenewstack.io/
- Books 📚:
- Gene Kim, Patrick Debois, John Willis, Jez Humble, John Allspaw "The DevOps Handbook: How to Create World-Class Agility, Reliability, and Security in Technology Organizations"
- Gene Kim, Kevin Behr, George Spafford "The Phoenix Project: A Novel about IT, DevOps, and Helping Your Business Win"
- Eliyahu M Goldratt, Jeff Cox "The Goal: A Process of Ongoing Improvement"
Links to books are to Amazon and as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases
If you liked this episode, you may as well enjoy this past episode of Quality Bits:
Cloud, Infrastructure as Code and Testing IaC with Daniel Mohacsi
https://www.buzzsprout.com/2037134/11743019
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- Mastodon: https://mastodon.social/@linazubyte
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/buggylina
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/linazubyte/
- Website: https://qualitybits.tech/
Follow Quality Bits on your favorite listening platform and Twitter: https://twitter.com/qualitybitstech to stay updated with future content.
If you like this podcast and would like to support its making, feel free to buy me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/linazubyteThank you for listening! ✨
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