The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 3
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08/25/26
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Long before Gypsy Rose Blanchard's mother was murdered, the tension inside that house was already at a breaking point. The private videos between Gypsy and Nick Godejohn that nobody was supposed to see. The evidence of violence that the HBO documentary never showed you. And the text messages from the night of June 9th, 2015, read out loud, minute by minute. They are not what you expect.
Gypsy's critics say she was the violent one all along. That it was Dee Dee who had reason to be afraid.
Chapters
00:00 Everyone Has A Hot Take
02:26 The BB Gun
04:09 Chained To The Bed
05:11 Why Not Just Run Away?
07:23 Nancy Simpson: She Was Shopping For A Man
09:22 That Bitch Is Dead
10:40 Victim Doesn't Mean Innocent
11:19 The Plea Deal
13:17 When Nick Became The Victim
16:16 Functions Like A 10-Year-Old
17:52 I Still Love Her
18:43 Activating The Dark Side
20:34 The Texts From June 9, 2015
23:58 What Gypsy Makes Of It
25:15 Andrea Dunlop On The Autism Argument
26:56 Grace And Accountability
28:01 Why Don't They Show You The Same Grace?
29:35 On The Plea Deal
30:15 Is It In All Of Us?
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Written and produced by Javier Leiva. Edited by Puneet Shenoy with The Podcast Pundits. Theme music by Joe Basile, thechicken.net.
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Previous Episode
The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 2
August 18
•42m
Her critics say Gypsy Rose Blanchard can't keep her story straight. So I sat down with her for almost three hours and asked about all of it. The pills through the feeding tube. The video where she tells Nick Godejohn she'd been hiding that she could walk since she was seven. And the Demona videos she has never addressed in front of a reporter.
You'll also meet the mother-daughter team behind Into the Weeds (youtube.com/@into-the-weeds-podcast), whose records requests produced what the internet calls the Gypstein Files.
Binge the first three episodes now, ad-free, on Patreon (patreon.com/pretendpodcast) or PRETEND+ on Apple Podcasts.
Chapters:
(00:00) Beignets And A Drive Into The Bayou
(01:50) The Questions Her Critics Say She Dodges
(02:36) No Mansion, Just A Fourplex
(04:48) The Breaking Point Was A Throat Surgery
(06:47) This Is My Voice
(08:19) Vicodin Through The Feeding Tube
(09:53) Did She Ever Go To School?
(11:46) Into The Weeds Files The Records Request
(12:59) What's Actually In The Gypstein Files
(15:59) The Video Where She Walks
(17:46) What Her Medical Records Say
(20:43) I Ask Gypsy To Settle It
(23:04) Videos Never Meant To Be Public
(25:56) Slave, Master, And An Old Facebook Account
(28:23) Dan Glidewell Testifies Under Oath
(29:46) The Demona Video
(34:25) Those Videos Were Disgusting
(35:14) Isolation And The Price Of Freedom
(36:10) Next Time On Pretend
Written by Javier Leiva. Edited by Puneet Shenoy with The Podcast Pundits. Theme music by Joe Basile, thechicken.net.
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•25m
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