
2108: The Internet Saves the Bachelor part 3
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05/28/25
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In Part 3 of The Internet Saves the Bachelor, the truth—or at least, what remains of it—is put on trial.
Laura Owens takes the stand. Under oath, she admits to altering the ultrasound she submitted as evidence. Her pregnancy timeline, once shaky, now completely collapses under cross-examination. The judge wants answers. The internet sleuths want accountability. And Clayton Echard? He just wants this nightmare to end.
Part 4 is available right now on Patreon and PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast
Sources:
SchnitzelNinja69 on YouTube
Dave Neal - https://www.youtube.com/@DaveNealComedian
Just Jen & Hay Bales with https://allthebestresearch.com/
Justice for Clayton - https://justiceforclayton.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
Megan Fox - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9XP_Ax4_vTi1IqSSRD9ORQ
Credits
Written by: Javier Leiva & Mackenzie Ames
Hosted by: Javier Leiva
Music by thechicken.net
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2107: The Internet Saves the Bachelor part 2
May 20, 2025
•40m
The story isn’t over. In Part 2, we dig deeper into the chaos that followed Laura Owens’ accusations against Bachelor star Clayton Echard.
Internet sleuths start pulling court records, police reports, and medical documents. Their findings are wild — fake identities, stolen ultrasounds, and a pregnancy that might never have happened.
Laura pushes back. She sues YouTuber Dave Neal and threatens to sue other podcasters for even discussing the case. In court, she testifies under oath. But her story keeps falling apart.
This episode exposes the internet’s role in fighting back, not with conspiracy theories, but with receipts.
Credits:
Hosted, Produced: Javier Leiva
Written by: Mackenzie Ames
References:
https://allthebestresearch.com
Dave Neal's YouTube: https://youtube.com/@davenealcomedian?si=buUz1EGyODwQ6aGv
https://justiceforclayton.com/wiki/index.php/Laura_Michelle_Owens_-_Court_Case_History
https://www.reddit.com/r/JusticeForClayton/
https://victimsoflauraowens.com/coverage/
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2109: The Internet Saves the Bachelor part 4
June 3, 2025
•39m
In part 4 of 'The Internet Saves the Bachelor,' we examine the growing cracks in Laura Owens’ story as her pregnancy timeline collapses under scrutiny.
At one hearing, she claims to be 24 weeks pregnant. In another, she says she miscarried months earlier. The dates keep shifting — July, August, October — and still, no medical provider can confirm that she was ever pregnant.
Clayton Echard’s legal team seizes on the inconsistencies. They ask the court to dismiss the case, arguing it was filed in bad faith. Sanctions, attorney’s fees, and even questions of criminal liability begin to surface.
Sources:
SchnitzelNinja69 on YouTube
Dave Neal
Just Jen & Hay Bales – All the Best Research
Justice for Clayton Wiki
Megan Fox on YouTube
Credits:
Written by: Javier Leiva & Mackenzie Ames
Hosted by: Javier Leiva
Music: thechicken.net
Produced by: Creative Babble
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