Unlocking the Unknown: Exploring Out-of-Body Journeys with Stefano Siciliano
Get Obsessed : With Living Your Best Life
06/16/26
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On the Get Obsessed podcast, host Mika Altidor interviews Stefano Siciliano, an American lifelong personal growth and spiritual path practitioner who began having spontaneous out-of-body experiences (OBEs) around age seven or eight and later learned to induce them. Inspired by Robert Monroe’s books, Stefano trained at the Monroe Institute, became a trainer in Europe, helped bring the technology to Eastern Bloc countries after the Soviet Republic collapsed, and now supports and endorses Darius J. Wright’s work. Stefano explains OBEs as normal and connected to sleep, dreams, and lucid dreaming, describing “mind awake, body asleep” as akin to deep meditation. He says conscious OBEs can transform one’s view of identity, reality, death, and loss, and frames adversity as a catalyst that can push people toward availability for “what more is possible,” recommending Wright’s online resources for further exploration.
00:00 Welcome and Intro
00:51 Stefano Background
01:31 Childhood OBEs
03:06 Monroe Institute Journey
03:54 Life Changes and Growth
04:57 Demystifying OBEs
05:53 Dreams Lucid and OBE
07:47 Mind Awake Body Asleep
09:13 Why It Matters
10:12 Seeing Your Body
12:13 Adversity as Teacher
15:15 Purpose in Suffering
20:20 Distortion and Chaos
23:29 Escapism and Cookoff
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Previous Episode
In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, Anne Gollert Hill continues her extraordinary story of life inside Scientology, sharing what it was like to work within the Sea Org and witness the organization's culture from the inside.
A writer, survivor, and creator of My Scientology Story, Anne offers a rare firsthand perspective on leadership, loyalty, fear, and life at the highest levels of Scientology.
In conversation with Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor, Anne discusses the realities behind Scientology's public image, from the influence of celebrity members and the leadership of David Miscavige to the personal relationships and policies that shaped daily life inside the organization. She also reflects on the emotional challenges of leaving and the lessons she has learned through her ongoing journey toward freedom and healing.
In this episode, we discuss:
01:59 - Why Scientology actively recruits celebrities and Anne's experience interviewing John Travolta
06:11 - Tom Cruise's relationship with David Miscavige and his unique status within Scientology
09:16 - Leah Remini, Mike Rinder, and the importance of exposing Scientology's abuses
11:29 - The absence of love in Scientology, the Bridge to Spiritual Freedom, and the financial cost of advancement
15:41 - The warning signs that led Anne to question Scientology and begin planning her escape
20:30 - How Anne's family's consistent love and support became the key to leaving the Sea Org
28:39 - Why leaving Scientology felt impossible and how Anne rebuilt her life afterward
ABOUT THE GUEST:
Anne Gollert Hill is a Canadian writer, survivor, and creator of the blog My Scientology Story, where she shares her experiences inside Scientology and her journey toward freedom. After joining Scientology in 1988 during a difficult chapter in her life, she became deeply involved in the organization and was eventually recruited into the Sea Org's international communications division, serving at some of Scientology's highest-level facilities, including Gold Base.
After nearly two decades inside the organization, Anne left Scientology on August 3, 2007, walking out of the Flag Land Base in Clearwater, Florida, with only the clothes on her back. Today, she speaks openly about coercive influence, recovery, personal freedom, and the lasting impact of life inside a high-control organization. Through her writing and advocacy, she helps others better understand the realities of indoctrination, escape, and rebuilding life after leaving Scientology.
MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE:
- (Video) Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath (Netflix) - https://www.netflix.com/title/81229101
- Website: My Scientology Story: http://agollerthill.wordpress.com/
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/annehillwriter/
- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/agollerthill
- Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@annegollerthill
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Host Mika Altidor continues a Get Obsessed podcast conversation with Stefano Siciliano, using the life of 1800s abolitionist John Brown to question claims that today is the worst time in history. Mika notes Brown endured extreme hardship, high child and maternal mortality, and fought slavery despite being white, ultimately giving his life for the cause. Stefano argues that while methods and appearances change, the fundamental “mechanic” remains: the pursuit of freedom from what is not true, with modern slavery expressed through deception, banking, and corrupt political systems. He says fear of loss drives greed and manipulation until people hit a crisis point where nothing works, creating the opportunity to be “available” for what’s possible. Availability depends on how one responds to adversity, like river water smoothing resistance in rocks.
00:00 Welcome Back Part Two
00:37 John Brown And Hard Times
03:29 Freedom Then And Now
05:19 Fear Loss And Corruption
05:47 Hitting The Wall
06:34 Choosing Availability
07:47 River Rocks Metaphor
08:43 Modern Comforts Still Misery
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