
Addicted to Murder: The True Crime Effect and Why We Can’t Look Away from Monsters Like Ed Gein
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10/23/25
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Are you an OBSESSED CRIME JUNKIE like us? We love true crime!
Welcome to Get Obsessed, where we go deep, dark, and disturbingly curious. Host Julie Lokun, JD, confesses what millions secretly feel: an unshakable obsession with true crime.
This isn’t your casual Dateline-before-bed fascination. This is the 2:00 AM rabbit hole of Googling Ed Gein, forensic entomology, and “how did a handyman from Wisconsin become the inspiration for Psycho, Silence of the Lambs, and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre?
Julie explores her morbid curiosity through the Netflix phenomenon “Monsters: The Ed Gein Story” and the psychology that keeps us clicking “next episode.” With humor, honesty, and a touch of self-reflection, she delves into her addiction to true crime.
In This Episode
• Why True Crime is the #1 podcast genre — and why 70% of listeners are women
• The eerie pull of The Ed Gein Effect — what it reveals about control, fear, and fascination
• How shows like Crime Junkie Podcast and My Favorite Murder build a dark sisterhood of survival
• The secret reason our brains crave fear in safety — and why your 5 AM walk feels like FBI training
• Why understanding monsters might just make you safer, smarter, and stronger
Listener Takeaways
• Learn the psychology behind The True Crime Effect — feeling fear while knowing you’re safe
• Discover how bingeing horror stories is actually a form of rehearsal for danger
• Join a sisterhood of women who study murder not out of morbidity, but empowerment
About Julie Lokun, JD ( A TRUE CRIME JUNKIE)
Julie Lokun is a communications strategist, lawyer, and true crime analyst who explores the intersection between psychology, justice, and curiosity. As the host of Get Obsessed, Julie blends her legal mind with her fascination for human behavior — decoding what drives us to fear, fixate, and find meaning in the macabre.
OBSESSED WITH TRUE CRIME
We might not be addicted to murder — we’re addicted to survival.
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FAQs About This Episode
Q1: Where can I watch the Ed Gein documentary featured in this episode?
A: Stream Monsters: The Lyle and Ed Gein Story on Netflix. Viewer discretion is advised — it’s as dark as it is fascinating.
Q2: What is the Crime Junkie Podcast that Julie mentions?
A: Crime Junkie Podcast is one of the world’s top true crime podcasts hosted by Ashley Flowers. It inspired millions — including Julie — to explore the psychology behind real cases.
Q3: Why are so many women drawn to true crime?
A: Studies show over 70% of true crime listeners are women, often because true crime content offers a safe space to study danger. It’s both thrilling and empowering — a masterclass in intuition and survival.
Q4: What is “The True Crime Effect”?
A: Julie defines it as feeling fear while knowing you’re safe. It’s that paradoxical comfort of being terrified under your blanket — knowing the monster can’t reach you, but your mind still dances with danger.
Q5: Where can I follow Julie Lokun?
A: Connect with Julie on Instagram and visit GET OBSESSED to explore our past podcasts, speaking events, and creative projects.
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Dr. Nadine Macaluso is a licensed marriage and family therapist, trauma expert, and author who helps individuals heal from abusive and narcissistic relationships. Once married to infamous stockbroker Jordan Belfort, Nadine’s story inspired Margot Robbie’s character in The Wolf of Wall Street.
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️ Learn more about Nadine’s work here: https://www.drnadinemacaluso.com
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Hosted by Julie Lokun, JD, and Mika Altidor Get Obsessed is a globally acclaimed podcast that dives deep into transformation, resilience, and the human spirit. Each episode spotlights bold thinkers, change-makers, and survivors who turn adversity into advantage.
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From trauma recovery to creative reinvention, every episode challenges you to get obsessed with your own growth and purpose.
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About Get Obsessed Podcast
Hosted by Julie Lokun, JD, and Mika Altidor Get Obsessed is a globally acclaimed podcast that dives deep into transformation, resilience, and the human spirit. Each episode spotlights bold thinkers, change-makers, and survivors who turn adversity into advantage.
Whether you’re obsessed with self-growth, mental wellness, or real-life comeback stories, this is your weekly dose of empowerment.
Follow Get Obsessed on Instagram
Visit The Mediacasters
About the Hosts
Julie Lokun, JD and Mika Altidor are the powerhouse duo behind Get Obsessed, a top-ranked global podcast where bold conversations meet personal transformation.
From trauma recovery to creative reinvention, every episode challenges you to get obsessed with your own growth and purpose.
MEET THE HOSTS LIVE IN CHICAGO AT CRE8TIVE CON 2025️
Get your tickets NOW-- www.cre8tivecon.com
About Mika Altidor
Mika Altidor is a visionary Vegan Chef, Credit Alignment Advocate, and CEO of Align 369 Enterprise — a company empowering individuals to elevate their financial wellness, spiritual alignment, and entrepreneurial mindset. As co-host of Get Obsessed and founder of Vegan Monarch Bakery, Mika blends conscious living with practical empowerment, helping others align their credit, creativity, and purpose to design lives of abundance and authenticity.
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